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> Apple has a vested interest in

Shareholder profit.

> and talks about it constantly.

Must be true then. Definitely not marketing.

> Facebook has an interest in selling every piece of information they have about you to the highest bidder

Nothing you've said suggests any different of Apple.




You're both right. Apple believes (as do many) that one way to achieve great shareholder profit is to differentiate yourself and perhaps get some pricing power is by truly prioritizing consumer privacy. They're both true.


>Shareholder profit.

This is a tired trope. They have a clear interest in user privacy, as evidenced by their actions. You're either just trolling or being intentionally ignorant to the state of the market if you're claiming their only focus is "shareholder profit". Apple isn't Boeing.

>Must be true then. Definitely not marketing.

I mean, there are countless examples. From the default encryption in messages, to the ability to double encrypt icloud backups, to a literal lockdown mode in IOS to protect against nation state actors.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/105120

>Nothing you've said suggests any different of Apple.

You've provided absolutely nothing of substance beyond a link where Apple literally states they have hard requirements around user privacy for any advertising partners.

I'm done engaging in the conversation unless you've got something of substance to provide. The low effort one liners don't really have a place on HN.


If you pay attention to the marketing, Google, and Samsung, and Qualcomm, and Sony, and Microsoft make most if not all the same claims. I haven't seen one that operates in a way that can prove it. All have some level of custom silicon involved. All could provide hardware documentation, source code, and installable or transparent keying. Barring the legal agreements between them, of course. I commend Apple for their amazing effort to uniquely ID each individual sensor and storage device in the world and tie it permanently to phone's unique ID, but again, it would be nice if the details of how that worked were published such that folks like Louis Rossmann could repair folks broken phones and laptops.

> The low effort one liners don't really have a place on HN.

Maybe you just didn't think about them long enough.




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