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The title is correct. Teaching kids that electrons orbit around a nucleus like a planet around the sun is a lie. It’s not even a rough simplification. We’ve known this for around a century. Yet that was the model I learned in high school, let alone grade school.

I hated school precisely because there was no mystery. Everything was known. It wasn’t till later that I found out many of the models taught on the blackboard were lies.

Even most of history class; Columbus should have died on his voyage, because it was known at the time that his calculations for the size of the Earth was wrong, but this is rarely mentioned. Same for the lie that the other types of protohumans died out because "they were worse at using tools" rather than because we brutally murdered them. The latter is a nice example of an uncomfortable idea that we deliberately lie to kids about so that they don’t have to know.




> Teaching kids that electrons orbit around a nucleus like a planet around the sun is a lie.

Of course its a simplification. You are talking to a kid! Not a graduate with high-school physics.

How else will you even attempt to simplify it to 10 years old?

It seems that you are also blaming a school teacher for not being a domain expert with PhD and up to date knowledge.

Most of teachers with decade or more are just that - teachers. Its their 9-5 job.


> How else will you even attempt to simplify it to 10 years old?

> The electron cloud model says that we cannot know exactly where an electron is at any given time, but the electrons are more likely to be in specific areas.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_cloud


say that you never talked to a child or young teen without saying it

How is that a simplification? and do you really think their eyes would not glaze over as they start daydreaming about icecream as you talk.


Mine wouldn’t’ve. And you could say the same about math, which thankfully can’t be simplified to the point of lies.


> math, which thankfully can’t be simplified to the point of lies.

Er, at least by the standards being thrown around in this thread it absolutely can be and regularly is. You can't have less than zero of something, it only makes sense to take the root of a positive number, any time we avoid generalizing the area under a curve or rates of change because calculus won't come up for a few years...


how about actually trying it instead of supposing it would work.

How old are yours kids?




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