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I can't really make my mind up on react, although it is definitely Java/IBM now - react devs are on average less smart than [newer framework] a la Graham on python.

Despite that, I actually quite like writing react in some sense - I prefer state in React to Svelte, even though I like where svelte is trying to go more.

I do absolutely hate some aspects of JSX - the nested ternaries are brutal and quite horrible IMO, so:

My ideal framework for the data work I do is probably a compiled (useMemo for performance is just inexcusable, sorry) react for the UI knobs, with Svelte components inside it for laying out the data




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