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That's assuming what you say is true (well it's unfalsifiable in foresight) and you are not employing some reverse psychology here. Incidentally I find that pro-China accounts or forums use similar arguments to profusely support removing sanctions.


It’s also quite literally true. There’s a reason there’s only one ASML. That reason is free trade - it makes it untenable to invest hundreds of billions into developing alternatives - you can just buy state of the art instead and move on to higher value things. Now we’ve forced China to (eventually) build “their own ASML”. Which they will eventually succeed at, given the strategic importance of this tech. Oops.


It didn't cost hundreds if billions to build EUV.

> Overall, EUV lithography machines needed more than $6.3B in R&D investments over 17 years to come to market

Japan could do it too (GigaPhoton had viable light source, but no customer).

Even if they were only 10% as efficient in R&D, it's peanuts to Chinese government.

EUV is being talked as some super mega project, but this is basically peanuts. Roughly 80 F-35. Even if rhey are far less efficient i wouldn't count on it for long.

Sure, it's legacy SWE for now, vut even that us better than all countries save 3-4.

Current sanctions are bust, it's time to comtemplate blank ban on chinese made chip.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/chinese-chip-equipment-ma...


It kind of did though. You’re talking about incremental cost, building on top of what’s already there. And what’s there was already quite formidable

Blanket ban is also not going to work on account of the West only representing 1/8th of the world’s population.




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