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Personally, I think "deterrence" has an incredibly awful success rate. I also think that, if prisons should even exist, they should only be for physically dangerous people. Never for "money" crimes. Being locked away from society for years, your life destroyed and likely abused or even raped seems beyond "cruel and unusual" to me.

Personally I think the whole concept of prison is primitive and should be done away with. If someone is violent then they have something wrong in their head and should be treated. I know that currently asylums can be worse places than even prisons, but once we move away from this draconian "people must suffer so I can feel better about wrong in the world" strategy we can move much more focus on getting treatment and detection right.




Being locked away from society for years, your life destroyed and likely abused or even raped seems beyond "cruel and unusual" to me

You know that politically-correct killjoy who always speaks up about how distasteful and offensive prison rape jokes are? I'm that guy.

That seems like a compelling case for reforming the prisons into a place where you're punished for your infractions against society, but not abused or raped. Prison shouldn't completely destroy someone's life, either. We need to have meaningful ways for prisoners to re-enter society as productive citizens. Otherwise, things never get better.


> If someone is violent then they have something wrong in their head and should be treated.

This is not always possible.


But we could try. What good does it do to lock them in a cage?


If they're untreatable, locking them up in the cage doesn't do them any good - it does society good.




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