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Or not: https://cryptonews.net/news/bitcoin/27725030

> According to the race data, Finney competed in the “Santa Barbara Running Company Chardonnay 10 Miler & 5K,” starting at 8 am Pacific time and finishing the race at 78 minutes.

> The race, however, coincides with timestamped emails between Satoshi and one of the first Bitcoin developers, Mike Hearn.



Timestamped emails? That's not cryptographic proof.


an email can be sent by cron, this seems like a convenient alibi to craft


wasn’t it multiple reply/response of emails during that same short 78 minute time period?


oh I have no idea but that would invalidate my theory


Maybe Satoshi was a group of people


If so, I think you'd see a different pattern of lost early coins? Aren't they all in one address?


i doubt he was crafting cron jobs to send emails when he had no idea bitcoin would get big and he had a marathon to do. tbh I think I can guess a good way to figure out who it was but I am unsure what the incentive would be, and unfortunately it would require effort.

EDIT> Am I being downvoted by people upset that I am suggesting it wasn't Hal or because of my nebulous statement? Oh nvm


Isn't the whole Bitcoin design based on the idea that it's going to get big?


Isn’t literally every startup business plan based on the idea that it’s going to get big?


Yes, Bitcoin is not a startup though - they saw it as social movement


My point is hubris applies to all human efforts. But even when feeling hubris you don’t know what the future holds. No one can know the importance of any of their actions in the present, and even when you embark on something you expect could change everything, no one is assured of success. In fact practical experience tells us it almost never actually happens. When someone does actually succeed it’s easy to see omniscience in their insights, and it’s arguably insightful, but only the insane believe that themselves when they set out.


He doesn't need to believe/be sure of it it on order to design for the possibility


By making cron jobs to forge timestamps during a race ?


He's a cryptography/security expert. Yes.


Designing for scalability and expectation of success are two different things to plan for.


Seems like that in literally every other case, Satoshi Nakamoto designed for both.


If only it could fit in these damned margins!

I’ll bite, what’s your “good guess to figure it out”?


lol nah man nothing special just reading this thread is more useful than anything.


There are more details addressing a bunch of the first thoughts people might have here: https://blog.lopp.net/hal-finney-was-not-satoshi-nakamoto/


Thank you for posting this it was a great read


Satoshi may have been more than one person, but Hal Finney is a good candidate for one of the core designers and someone who was involved.


And if he was more than one person, I've never seen any proof that that more-than-one person group could not also include Hearn, and that part of crafting a Satoshi pseudo-identity was to create alibis for those most likely to be suspected of being especially as those involved were highly familiar with, and created bitcoin in its decentralized-ish form precisely to avoid the fates of those centrally involved with earlier e-money products.

But no, any attempt to investigate the origins of Satoshi will be viciously attacked by the same twenty or so individuals who show up everywhere to defend this modern day hermes trismegistus mystery, which has proved infinitely useful, not to mention fun, to keep propped up.




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