if you go back a bit they still look the same ~ http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000077.html & http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/11/26.html I do like the evolutionary design, but older articles miss out. The particular post reads like a fluffy advertisement without much substance. Luckily you can listen to the excellent StackOverflow podcasts ~ http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2008/12/podcast-32/