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> is a death sentence. You’ll never make as much money again

Going from 800K-1.2M down to 200K-300K total comp is not that devastating I'd say :)




>Going from 800K-1.2M down to 200K-300K total comp is not that devastating I'd say :)

If you've built up a 1.2M a year lifestyle, then going back to 250k a year lifestyle might feel like a "death sentence", at which point you will hear the world's smallest violin playing for you.

Hance why you shouldn't keep extending your lifestyle proportionally with your paycheck growth, and learn to stay humble and frugal and not spend to 'keep up with the Joneses'.

Unless you're in the same league with John Carmack or Andrej Karpathy where top companies are begging at your feet, you should treat jobs with very large TCs more like short therm lottery wins rather than cashflows guaranteed to last, since there's a high chance you're not that special as you think, and that there's probably others out there who can and are willing to do your work better and for cheaper when the crunch comes and the layoff axe starts to swing towards those non-exec workers responsible for company's biggest paycheck expenses. Those who've lived thorugh the 2008 days will know and remeber what I'm talking about.


For anyone making this kind of money at an early age, don't spend it... invest it.

If you're actually making $1.2 million a year, invest at least $500k/yr.

Then if you need to take a pay cut later, hopefully the dividends from your investment accounts brings your total income close to where it once was.

Also if you're reading this wondering if people actually make this amount of money coding... the answer is no, with the exception of an incredibly small percentage of people. Expecting $800k comp is not realistic for 98% of people.


This is good advice. But it's worth pointing out that by default many of these people are heavily invested in GOOG. And those that aren't are probably heavily invested in market instruments propped up by the GOOG price.

So, mumble mumble, something about diversifying.

I'm sure the layoffs are likely to lead to a short-term bump because the markets will interpret it as Google adulting. But if they're signalling that they're afraid of AI eating their market share, then you probably want to be proactive about that.


If they kept a large chunk of their vested stock in the same company they are working for - or any one company, they are doing it wrong


Well, yeah I agree. But I think most people do by default. That's really the idea of vesting... to align employee interests with the interests of the company.


At least at Amazon they gave you a choice pre vest between - sell all when they vest, sell enough to pay taxes, and sell none.

I always chose option 1. This is like personal finance 101.

And for the company the purpose of RSUs instead of cash is to not deplete cash reserves.


If you've built up a 1.2M / year lifestyle on a 1.2M / year income you've made some terrible mistakes, I doubt some internet advice is going to solve that.


>If you've built up a 1.2M / year lifestyle on a 1.2M / year income you've made some terrible mistakes

You'd be surprised by people's poor spending habbits. Aquitances of mine when they got their first SV job out of college at Facebook, they immediately bought brand new Porsche 911's.


I know, that's easy to laugh at. And new army recruits spend their "signing bonus" on (so-called) muscle cars like the Mustang and Charger.

I think a token of "I've made it!" is fine. Maybe we all need that once in our life.

The problem is if it persists. (Worst, if somehow gambling, etc. becomes involved.)


>And new army recruits spend their "signing bonus"

You get a signing bonus for the US militrary? Damn that's pretty sweet.


Only if you can’t afford it. If you’ve built up income streams to support it you’ve made a bunch of great decisions and inter generational wealth.


One of the pieces of career advice I've given my kids is: when your pay goes up, be very cautious about changing your lifestyle to match it. Going up that ladder is easy -- going back down is painful.

Ideally, your standard of living should cost you a fraction of what your income is.


I was making $x in 2020 as a CRUD developer in Georgia.

I got a job at Amazon and was making $x+$100K

I was Amazoned last year from a remote position. By then, I had paid off debt, downsized from my big house in the burbs to a condo one third the size in state tax free Florida and could easily live off of $x- $30K even though I’m making around $50K more than I was making 3 years ago.

Guess how much I stressed when Amazon started Amazoning?


> If you've built up a 1.2M a year lifestyle

If you're living this way, feel free to reach out. I have loads of advice you don't want to but need to hear.


Most devs aren't on $800-1.2M TC.




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