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Yeah but we re talking about the real world. If we re honest, when do most conflicts arise with bystanders ready? When people are drunk at night... (or similarly mentally impaired maybe? why do people have open conflicts in the streets in the first place should be part of the theory).

So you might say that if the theory didnt take alcohol, nights and all your factors into account, then it was as useful as considering investors as rational in an econ theory and predicted nothing worth predicting.




Bystander effect is more than just street fights at 1am.

When I saw the title of this piece, my first thought was an emergency situation (eg - automobile accident, building on fire).

Did the study even determine whether bystanders were independent individuals or had a prior relationship to the belligerents? If the second one then it feels like the study is invalidated.


Bystander effect is thought to arise due to a fear of standing out. Alcohol inhibits that fear, which is why it's a social drug.

It's like a study concluding that depression doesn't exist by studying a bunch of people who are medicated for depression.


Intervention by a drunk to stop the fight of more-drunks is part of standard bar protocol, plus inhibitions are lower thanks to alcohol

Doubtful it represents most real bystander situations where you actually need to make a choice, like situations in daily life where you are busy going about your business (rather than being in a bar literally for this sort of fun), or low key stuff like bullying, harassment, etc etc.




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