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Thanks. Just three quick comments.

> The authorities continued to erode the independence of the judiciary.

This is highly debatable, though I do not claim to know enough about this issue to be able to say a lot.

> Violations of LGBTI rights persisted.

I'm not sure what exactly they mean, but I suspect this may be about so-called "same-sex marriage". The definition of marriage as a union of one man and one woman is fortunately written into Polish constitution, which is quite difficult to change, so there's that. (Also, not calling a same-sex relationship a "marriage" does not really violate anyone's rights.)

> Access to abortion was further limited.

Which - given how abortion is basically killing innocent human beings - is a huge step towards freedom (more precisely, the right to live).

EDIT: also, I love how you mention Spain time and again. I can only assume you come from there, and if that's the case, I highly applaud your patriotism.




> Violations of LGBTI rights persisted

Aparently,

> "by the end of [2022], 79 Polish administrative units still declared themselves so-called 'LGBT-free zones'. [...] LGBTI rights defenders faced ongoing criminal and civil proceedings. [...] In January, during court proceedings brought by one activist who had been arbitrarily detained for 24 hours after the so-called Rainbow Night protest in 2020, the police officer who arrested him admitted: 'We were instructed to stop all persons displaying the colours of LGBT, regardless of how they behaved'".

> Given how abortion is basically killing innocent human beings - is a huge step towards freedom

I don't think that condemning a fetus with terrible congenital defects to be born against the will of its parents is a step towards freedom.

> I love how you mention Spain time and again. I can only assume you come from there, and if that's the case, I highly applaud your patriotism.

I don't know whether you're being honest, or sarcastic. In any case: I tongue-in-cheek "defended" Spain above just because @Radim said to me: "coming from a Spaniard? go fuck yourself" ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37914718 ), which I found baffling, irrelevant, and very nasty.

I am against all patriotism and nationalism. I am not "proud" or "ashamed" of privileges or defects that I got by chance, or traits over which I bear no responsibility or I can't control.

Assume I'm from North Korea. Or from Vanuatu. Let's discuss ideas, not individuals, please!


> > "by the end of [2022], 79 Polish administrative units still declared themselves so-called 'LGBT-free zones'.

This one is a widespread fake. As for the rest, I don't know, though I suspect similar. As for

> LGBTI rights defenders faced ongoing criminal and civil proceedings

at least some of the Polish LGBTI right defenders have a rather... rough relationship with the law (outside their activism).

> I don't think that condemning a fetus with terrible congenital defects to be born against the will of its parents is a step towards freedom.

It is. Every human being, irrespective of their age, has the right to live.

> I don't know whether you're being honest, or sarcastic.

100% honest, sorry for not making it clear enough.

> Let's discuss ideas, not individuals, please!

Patriotism is an idea, and a very noble one at that.

Anyway, thanks for keeping the discussion civil. (Also honestly.)




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