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Look, I get where you’re coming from. But ask people who actually play competitive online games and I can all but guarantee the general consensus is that anti-cheat is celebrated, not hated. Most people’s complaint with VAC would likely be that it is too lenient or too slow to ban.

Some online games don’t have anti-cheat, and they become nothing but a cheating cesspool. Which consequently drives away actual players, and then you have a dead game except for essentially bots.




That's the same argument as "but think of the children". Are you also fine with CSAM scanning tools being installed everywhere? It's okay to have a bunch of false positives that potentially ruin people just in case you can also catch a bad apple?


It's not even remotely the same argument as the CSAM one. It's not a human right to play a certain video game.


Neither is owning a phone? What is your point?


Because if you do own a phone then it becomes your property and the manufacturer shouldn't be allowed to invade the privacy of your data on your phone, but CS is free to play, it's not your property, it's Valve's property, and Valve is allowed to allow or ban whoever they want on it, you don't have a constitutional right to be allowed to paly CS without Valve's permission.


> Are you also fine with CSAM scanning tools being installed everywhere?

No, and neither am I ok with anticheat software doing it. Afaik, most anticheats don’t do that. They just make sure that nothing is modifying/injecting into the game code. Which is imo reasonable, as the anticheat is just monitoring for any injections/modifications to the game that it came with.


You argument sounds good to an executive, however, it is simply not the case that games have rampant amount of hacking in general.

EDIT: Why would you just downvote this, I already suspected you're one of those idiots who thinks everyone is cheating. Now I'm just convinced, and that's enough of this self masturbating forum for the month. Most cheat accusers in games are literally clueless slobs who just sign on to level up or some idiots in a closed circle of friends and think anyone who doesn't use their basic immediate method of naive play like walking into each other and clicking on each other is cheating.


> however, it is simply not the case that games have rampant amount of hacking in general.

Yes, many do. Especially ones with poor anti-cheat, which tend not to be very popular - because of the aforementioned cheating. Even non-overly competitive games are rampant with cheating, take a look at GTA5 online for an easy example. Without VAC games like the counter-strike series would be completely unplayable, I have over 1000 hours in the game and have ran into my fair share of extremely obvious cheaters over the years. I suspect you don't play competitive games very much if that's your view on the matter.

> Why would you just downvote this, I already suspected you're one of those idiots who thinks everyone is cheating.

1. I can't downvote you, as you're a reply to my comment. Not that I would have anyway.

2. I've never cheated in an online game (my Steam account is 17 years old..), and I'm well aware that many players are not cheating and are simply better than me.

3. No need to resort to attacking me because you disagree.


HN software doesn’t allow downvoting posts that are responses to your own posts. The poster couldn’t have downvoted your post just like you can’t downvote this one.


> however, it is simply not the case that games have rampant amount of hacking in general.

Have you played TF2 recently?




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