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Why is what's "required" a consideration? Almost nothing in modern life is required. You don't need AC, heat, refrigeration, video games, movies etc. NONE of that is a requirement and it all contributes to climate change.

Part of living in a free society is that you get to have things that aren't required. IF I want to buy the biggest gas guzzling truck there is, I should have the right to do so since I'll be spending my $80k+ of money on it.




This feels like a weird thing to have to explain to someone, but like, the whole purpose of government and regulations is to provide a framework to peacefully resolve conflicts when one person's decisions affect another person. It's kind of how civilization works, you know? Your decision to drive a battletank on public roads affects more than just yourself.


"resolve conflicts when one person's decisions affect another person"

Your silly little metaphor would make sense if it was actually about how it "affected others". It's clearly not for the reasons I explained above.


You're free to do so if you also buy your own exclusive air supply that never touches our air. And never drive on public roads that everyone else pays for and uses - because then you are contributing to road wear and higher accident rates. Otherwise the rest of us retain the right to put limits on your "freedom".


LOL. Sure, so you'll be removing your AC, heat, and refrigeration because it's LITERALLY KILLING ME AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.

I can do it too bud and I can't wait till they come after something you want and take it forcefully from you to "save the children".

It's just plain gross incompetence at this point to think any of this about creating a safer society. How laughable.


Reductio ad absurdum etc. But continue feeling smug if that suits you.


Ah yes because sounding like you're casting a Harry Potter spell is a good rebuttal. You could have just admitted you got caught swimming in cognitive dissonance.


Because it's not cognitive dissonance.

You seem to think "If you're so worried about climate change why do you participate in _____" is some kind of gotcha winning card to play in any climate-related argument. Taken to its logical, absurd conclusion, anyone that doesn't kill themselves immediately is equally responsible for climate change as someone emitting millions of tons of carbon a year.

You lack wisdom. You don't debate in good faith.


The people placing power in the hands of representatives through democratic elections, choosing not to have the biggest gas guzzling trucks on their inner city streets.


That's not true at all but nice try. (see EV sales)

Creating excuses for totalitarianism is fun.


What about other people's freedom to not breath polluted air from bigger trucks ?

The freedom to impose on other people's freedom is a funny one.


What about my freedom for your modern house and internet powered by coal to not kill me?


Same argument for guns, right? Or a less baity example, antibiotics.




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