They're not wrong. I actually tried learning COBOL at some point and it really is pretty bad. On the other hand, ALGOL turned out to be a surprisingly elegant language and I certainly understand how it influenced pretty much everything that we use today. I actually wish C had more of ALGOL in it.
Lisps were never on the same tier as COBOL or PHP.
Lisps were never on the same tier as COBOL or PHP.