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Off-topic, but related: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion (as much as I hate patents)



[Wikipedia] > It is possible to claim that something is being done "for the children" as support in a logical argument, or as a counterargument. But if used to avoid logical debate, it is a thought-terminating cliché. Doing something "for the children" is not a logical fallacy of itself. For example, it is reasonable to suggest and legislate to "add traffic lights next to schools so that children are safer from cars."

Giving an example in which a certain system is bad for individuals is not automatically a logical fallacy. In the article it is clearly not used as a thought-terminating cliché, but merely a way to (truthfully) show the downsides of patent legislation – and if nothing else convince the patent holders that pressing charges against an app that is so essential for many is not a good idea. They also explain in detail what they think is the problem with the current system.


Very relevant, IMHO. I don't want to hear "think of the children!1!!11" as an argument against patents any more than I do for or against anything else.


When people use the "think of the children" argument, they are usually talking about the hypotheticals. "Think of the children" when you let guns or drugs in the neighborhood. "Think of the children" when you legalize prostitution.

In this instance however, it is think of this very specific child. There is no hypothetical child here who might be harmed. There is a real, actual child who will lose her ability to communicate if this app is pulled off and remotely deleted from her iPad.


I'm sure one could find many concrete cases where a specific child has been harmed by guns/drugs. After a quick Google search: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2078377/Three-year-o...


>pulled off and remotely deleted from her iPad

When Apple yanks apps from the store, they are not remotely deleted from customer's iDevices or PC's. There are a small handful of cases where remote deletion was used, and IIRC, it was all various forms of malware.


If Apple has the ability to do this, what prevents a court from ordering them to do so?


As far as I'm aware, patent cases usually end in injunctions and fines. I'm not aware of any case where the infringing party had to go out into the world and round up all the products they sold. While the internet may make that easier for Apple, I still think it would be an extraordinary thing for a court to order. The court does not have the authority to give such commands.


In a word, "property rights".


But we're in a 'brave new world' now where you don't buy things anymore (i.e. own them), you just purchase a license to use it! ;-)


As far as I know Apple has yet to use its ability to pull apps from devices. Apple said it only will do it when malware appears and that has not yet happened.


Huh, okay. I might be thinking Google/Android instead.


There was a reasonably high profile case of Amazon remote-deleting Kindle books a while back, ironically George Orwell's 1984 (amongst others).


Just to confirm, I still have the original iDOS on my iPad, removed from the store a very long time ago.




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