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That’s the sophomoric take. The only reason you had the opportunity to buy a pallet during a shortage in the first place is due to idiotic “price gouging” laws.

During the pandemic the price of toilet paper should have been increased by an order of magnitude at the store level. This would prevent hoarding and it would make sure people who desperately wanted it could get it. Additionally, it would have incentivized producers and sellers to fill demand.

Price controls are the equivalent of rations. They don’t solve anything because they remove all of the incentives.




> and it would make sure people who desperately wanted it could get it.

I fail to see how making toilet paper cost hundreds or thousands of dollars per roll would ensure that everyone who needed it would be able to get it, since many of those who desperately wanted to wipe their ass were unable to work and going into record amounts of debt just to keep food on the table and a roof over their heads.

Producers and sellers were already fully incentivized to sell their goods, as they always have been. They know people want their product and will pay them enough that they can turn a profit. There's no reason to turn toilet paper into an luxury item which only the wealthiest people can afford leaving the majority priced out.

Price controls and rations have their place. Like all tools, the key to is make sure that they are used correctly.


None of what you said makes any sense. Who would pay thousands per roll? Why would the price be that high?

Also, you’re incorrect about producers having the right incentives. They are incentivized by money, not a higher calling to wipe ass.

Price controls have no place at all other than appealing to people’s emotions. They cannot fix or hide supply problems. They can just shift the price signal to lucky intermediaries (scalpers) rather than to suppliers.


> Why would the price be that high?

You said: "the price of toilet paper should have been increased by an order of magnitude at the store level. This would prevent hoarding". How high do you think the price per roll would have to be to ensure that no one (not even rich people or a small group of rich people working together) could afford to buy up a pallet of toilet paper to try to resell at a higher price? It'd have to be pretty damn expensive. Expensive enough to price out most people since a millionaire can afford to pay so much more than someone making below minimum wage

> Also, you’re incorrect about producers having the right incentives. They are incentivized by money, not a higher calling to wipe ass.

Read my comment again, I never said anything about a "higher calling". I explicitly said that their incentive was profit.


An order of magnitude literally means 10. Not 100,000. Usually it costs like $1-2 a roll, so it should have gone to $10-20 a roll as soon as shelves emptied the first time. That would have meant that people would have bought only what they need (they would not have seriously spent $1000 on TP), but nearly all people could have afforded say $40-50 to get a 4-pack to get them by a week until more were delivered. That minimizes consumers’ excess hoarded inventory— which is where all the TP was.

Instead, IRL, anyone who could find them were buying up several massive packages because it was only the normal ≈$20 for 20 rolls situation, so “heck, buy 60, 80, maybe 100 rolls! Who knows when I’ll get this lucky as to find it again?” Meaning suddenly everyone was buying and warehousing way more TP than they needed in 6 months. Not adjusting prices literally caused the shortage.


Ah yes “the poors don’t deserve to afford toilet paper because market forces and capitalism!”

It’s amazing what tech bros making 6 figures will say from their ivory towers.


It’s incredible how dumb the jump is from “the price shouldn’t be kept at what the pre-pandemic levels were” to “the poors don’t deserve to afford toilet paper”.

Were you alive and shopping for toilet paper during covid? The wealthy could already purchase it whenever from scalpers (a.k.a Amazon resellers). Normal people had to drive from store to store hoping their ration came in and they timed it right.

The hyperbolic interpretation of price controls is, “the poors don’t deserve toilet paper at all unless they win a lottery”.




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