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? They'll just buy iPhones in some other country.



GPS is a thing. iPhones have GPS.


Ok, and these companies develop zero-day exploits for a living. You think region-locking is going to work?


Enough to make the company politically unpopular in its home country, yes.


That sound so naive, or fanboy - it ain't funny. GPS can be spoofed, and the entire hardware that decodes it replaced.

Trying to hide a hardware device that's sold in billions is not going to happen.


You are severely underestimating the power of an entity like Apple. HN regularly spouts opinions that if US companies don't like the GDPR they should just stop doing business with the EU. That's a massive block of consumers and I highly doubt any company that likes its bottom line is going to take that approach.

But we're talking about one company here that simply should stop selling their crap to the highest bidder. I'm at some level ok with the Israeli's doing what they do, they're no different than any other nation state. But to allow this sort of entity to operate from your soil in a commercial manner, including selling those exploits on the open market where they will inevitably be used against the home country as well seems 'optional' to me and there is a lot of Israelis that like their smartphones.

Why would an entity the size of Apple risk their reputation and everything they stand for to avoid a run-in with a relatively tiny company in a relatively small part of the world that is causing an enormous amount of problems?


So tourists (or people visiting for family or work) who own iPhones wouldn't be able to use them in Israel? You can probably see how that's a tough sell.


Yes, that's exactly it: you harbor this sort of company you will not be able to pretend it's business as usual on other fronts.

After the 500,000th Facebook post of tourists linking NSO to 'my holiday in Israel was spoiled and I won't be going back there' I'm pretty sure they'd get the message.

I'm ok with whitehat hackers but this shit has to stop. Mind you, I have an old Nokia so it's not as if I'm affected, the only thing I have to worry about is the baseband processor and my telco. But there are plenty of people who need a smartphone for their work and their opsec is pretty much as good as their phones' security.


GPS is trivially blockable.


Voters would notice.




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