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I honestly don’t give an fuck about drm or attestatuon. There are only so many things one can find time to care about, and neither makes my list.


Yeah, I'd understand not caring. That's a pretty common and reasonable take, though I'd hope a tech website like this would be more pro-privacy.

But actively caring about browser companies, and choosing Chrome because Mozilla "sold out" when they added pocket is a pretty wild take imo.


Privacy… eh. I care… somewhat. I’ll do things I personally consider reasonable, but I think that, say, the people who completely clear browser state every 5 minutes are barmy (and also probably much more exposed than they think they are - the very act of trying to not Leak anything makes them stand out, if anything).


Yeah that's a pretty reasonable take tbh. I do all that, but I'm fully aware its silly and probably counterproductive.

& hey, if you prefer Chrome because you find it more usable or performant that's a perfectly good reason

I'm mostly upset at the people in this thread (presumably not you) who seem to be against Firefox for ideological reasons which seems completely backwards to me


Pretty reasonable to support the erosion of privacy and foster a "I have nothing to hide, and if you act like you do you're probably guilty lmao" culture along with an Orwellian monopolistic grip on the foremost medium of information exchange of this and probably the next century because of your personal apathy. :) #justreasonablethings


Hey, I'm pretty big into privacy myself. Firefox all the way, 100%. Totally feel you that it's awful.

As much as I'd love it though, I don't think it's reasonably to expect everyone else to care as much as we do. There's plenty of other issues that matter too that I'm glad other people are out there caring about on my behalf. Eg. I know being vegan is better but its a big annoying change and I haven't been able to do it yet.

I'm mostly concerned with all the rhetroic here that's trying to paint firefox as unsympathetic when they are clearly the people fighting on our side. If you don't personally care enough to switch to FF, or use Graphene OS, or run Linux etc. I get that, but pleeease don't also try to discourage other people too, y'know?

(& ofc the real solution is through policy and getting an American version of GDPR/California Privacy act, getting courts to stop the NSA etc. Being preachy online is counterproductive to getting broad support and the mission overall imo)


I already get pop ups from my insurance company (a major one I might add) that FF is not a supported browser when I log into their website. I assume that one day I'll be told to use Edge or Chrome and not allowed to log in at all.

I'm not a privacy fanatic and I don't really care if my browser supports proprietary DRM so that I'm able to watch shows on streaming platforms. However, I see a lot of potential for the remote attestation mechanism proposed by Google to give companies an easy way to enforce "We support this set of browsers on this set of operating systems" and effectively cut off support for Linux and browsers that aren't popular Chromium variants. That doesn't mean I can't go and switch companies but that requires a lot of effort on my part to do so.




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