How so? If you're thinking about Eich's politics, those are/were HIS, not Brave or Mozilla the organization's. Brave the organization's politics are pretty narrow and what you'd want out of a browser: Privacy and user control.
Meanwhile Mozilla the organization boots people for politics, wants "more than deplatforming" and uses as one of their examples organizations deciding what I should see on the Internet - preferring outlets that Mozilla themselves like, naturally. They publish stuff with the gist of "did you encounter other politics on YouTube, how scary".
Meanwhile the organization spends money on getting a sneaker designer to make time-limited color themes for their browser and writes a pile of copy about how cool it is that a sneaker designer painted the browser blue.
Meanwhile, Brave releases a user-customizable filtering function for their search engine so you, not someone else, can decide from what POV you see the Internet and added native vertical tabs to the browser.
One organization is blatantly political, the other just makes a good browser.
You can run a similar set of comparisons for Vivaldi, who are also clearly a much more product-focused organization and it shows. They have some more visible political leans as an org, but still far milder than Mozilla's, a lot of those leans being just being vehemently anti-crypto, with the biggest focus going to user control and privacy, as it should.
Brave the organization runs and integrates with anarchocapitalist cryptoscams. That's far beyond anything Mozilla the organization has done, and if it's not worse in magnitude by itself, that's only because Brave thankfully remains a miniscule also-ran. Writing copy about sponsoring Web3 gaming expos is far stupider than writing about getting a sneaker designer to add some browser themes.
But yes, Eich and his horrible treatment of gays, which he still hasn't renounced (instead doubling-down and saying that the "deal" was that they could have civil unions but they went too far to get marriage too — they can ride on the same bus, but they can only sit in the back), as well as his nonstop promotion of conspiracy theories is something no sensible person would want to support. If you think Mozilla "[booted Eich] for politics" instead of for taking public actions that tarnished the reputation of the company, you seem like the type of fellow who would have cheered Stephen Douglas in the Lincoln-Douglas debates. As Douglas repeatedly stated, laws concerning the sale of "negroes" are no different from laws concerning the sale of dry goods or liquor, and the people of Illinois should no more tell Missouri how it can sell people than it should tell them how it can sell dry goods — that's Missouri's politics, and Illinois should mind its own business.
Disagreements about the meaning of the English word "marriage" arent even political disagreements. No more so than any other disagreements about what words mean. Disagreeing that marriage can, by definition, include homosexual relationships isnt "treatment" of anyone. You dont treat someone differently by saying "I think you should be able to have a legally recognised relationship but I refuse to allow language to be actively and deliberately manipulated".
> You dont treat someone differently by saying "I think you should be able to have a legally recognised relationship but I refuse to allow language to be actively and deliberately manipulated".
You do if the word has a legal definition and you refuse the benefits tied to that legal definition. Eich is free to call it whatever he wants as long as people get the benefits of marriage, something he paid to stop from happening. What kind of asshole thinks it's OK to treat someone poorly because of quibbles over how everyone else is allowed to use a word? For that matter, Douglas is free to call black people "human goods" so long as he doesn't allow them to actually be bought and sold by controlling legal definitions that allow for it.
There is no "legal definition". There is just the definition. The legal benefits are tied to marriage because of what marriage is, not because of its name. If you want the legal benefits extended to you, then make that the law. But the benefits are restricted to marriage because marriage is a particular institution with a particular social purpose: producing the next generation in a stable environment. That is something only marriage has been proven to be able to do.
So just to be clear, you agree that you're treating people differently now? You just justify it by tortured logic based on your traditional superstitions. Just like Judge Douglas and Eich.
As far as making that the law, that's exactly what happened. Eich and his fellow ethically-challenged smallbrains then changed the constitution so that the law no longer applied.
Everyone is different. Thus everyone is treated differently.
> You just justify it by tortured logic based on your traditional superstitions.
Why are the American left so obsessed with religion? You seem to think it is the basis for all disagreement with your absurd views. Guess what: almost everyone in the world disagrees with you. And it isnt on religious grounds.
> As far as making that the law, that's exactly what happened. Eich and his fellow ethically-challenged smallbrains then changed the constitution so that the law no longer applied.
So you are making an argument that one group of people are allowed to unilaterally pass laws that redefine common terms, but you say that anyone trying to undo that illogical change is "trying to change the definition"?
Do you not see how hypocritical that is?
Also FYI, insulting people doesn't make your argument look stronger. It just makes you look very desperate. I know that American leftists almost never have to justify their views to anyone and have no practice defending them, but try a little harder.
> Why are the American left so obsessed with religion? You seem to think it is the basis for all disagreement with your absurd views.
Because you're using your superstitions to tell other people what to do. Guess what? Everybody with at least half a post-enlightenment brain disagrees with you.
> So you are making an argument that one group of people are allowed to unilaterally pass laws that redefine common terms
No, my argument from the start has been that one group is wrong to do so, just like Lincoln said that one group is wrong to make laws allowing slavery to expand. This type of consistent thinking is difficult for superstitious people to follow, but with practice, it will come more easily.
> Also FYI, insulting people doesn't make your argument look stronger.
I'm just saying what everyone is thinking. If you don't like it, maybe Eich (and you) should stop being publicly wrong. For that matter, you should see the insults that Lincoln hurled at Douglas. A hint for you: your insults would land better if you were right.
I have no fucking clue who this person is. Stop bringing him up. It is insanely cringe.
>Because you're using your superstitions to tell other people what to do. Guess what? Everybody with at least half a post-enlightenment brain disagrees with you.
I am not religious you moron. Stop making random assumptions. How many times does this need to be explained to you? Why are you fucking stupid American leftists incapable of understanding that people can disagree with you for GOOD reasons. You aren't automatically right about everything just because you're on the left and you were born in the USA. You're an absolute fucking dolt.
Figures you would have no knowledge of American history nor even the basic ability to learn about a topic that has been provided for you. And you're the one calling people stupid dolts. Talk about cringe.
If you aren't relying on the superstitions passed down from your parents, that is an even stronger indictment of your mental abilities. At least Eich has the excuse that he's too uncomfortable removing himself from his community in order to think critically.
Credit where credit is due, I'm impressed by your mental gymnastics. There is a legal definition (no scare quotes needed) of marriage, and that legal definition is precisely what Eich was trying to change.