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You risk everybody threwing some shit into the pipeline. Now they have to think about if the really want to trie to get it threw.


I am not sure I follow?

It would force the governments to develop better and cheaper systems themselves to make sure that they can test for cheap.

Surely the current scenario isn't working is it?


> Surely the current scenario isn't working is it?

How so?

Are not drug companies finding drugs that people desire a great deal for their life saving and other efficacious properties?

I'm guessing that you don't like that newer drugs are too expensive. What would be your definition of "too expensive" and what would be your proof that such a situation exists?


Wow that was a lot of assumptions :)

The current scenario isn't working IMO if the majority of the cost comes from the approval process.

Drugs for me er fairly cheap as I come from Denmark.

With regards to proof. The article we are debating here is proof that since the production of a drug is extremely cheap the development of it is extremely expensive.

Surely that cost can be cut.


What I was trying to say: When the goverments pays for testing how will you stop brute force testing?

> It would force the governments to develop better and cheaper systems themselves to make sure that they can test for cheap.

I doute they cool do that.

> Surely the current scenario isn't working is it?

Well like most things it kind of works but is not very effective.

I agree its not very good right know but I don't know how to change it.


>> It would force the governments to develop better and cheaper systems themselves to make sure that they can test for cheap.

>I doubt they could do that.

While I disagree with the OP's point in general, this is probably true in a way the OP didn't intend. When testing, each unit of thoroughness you add costs the same amount but catches fewer and fewer mistakes. You generally want to stop adding more tests when the cost of new tests (in drugs that are too expensive to develop) exceeds the cost of letting bad drugs through. The research I've seen shows that not only is the FDA well into the point of diminishing returns, its also probably into the realm of negative net returns on drug testing. Probably because there's a huge public outcry when a drug they approve ends up killing people, but no outcry when I drug that could save lives isn't developed due to too much testing. If anybody has more research on the topic, however, I'd be happy to see it.


I would stop brute force testing simply by putting a limit on it.

As far as I know there are some pretty standard procedures you have to go through. Surely it must be possible to somehow validate and verify whether someone is trying to take advantage.

You can't hinder some taking advantage of it, but you don't have to IMO.

>I doute they cool do that.

Of course they can, just like then can improve many other areas in public service.

>I agree its not very good right know but I don't know how to change it.

Well I for one think its more fair to accept some fraud to make it cheaper for everyone else if possible of course.




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