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The MSM/MEM as population control vehicle/idiot honeypot is a salient angle though you quickly get into self-fulfilling prophecy stuff there. Perhaps it's me being overly pessimistic, but I too might have been captured by the mind-rot matrix if I had grown up with that shit, never knowing what was or could be.



The web isn’t going to help there. Crackpots made websites too.

You aren’t responsible for what other people do. Just live your own life.


I'm not and yet the fate of a population is not arbitrary. MSM is society-level technology and it's clearly doing something to it that would not have happened in its absence.

I'm seeing it in personal acquaintances, who get lost in the information garbage sphere and struggle to contextualize the places that unfavorably shape their belief system (not talking about niche crackpot sites, but trash media here).

This is the polar opposite of what I had hoped would happen with this technology before it got captured by economic incentives. And it's also not what would have happened, had this mold not proliferated, and slower but curated systems prevailed.

It's not all terrible, there's resilience and adaptation. And yet I cannot stop feeling we're dealing with a quite unwelcome phenomenon that weakens a sizable part of us who would profit from a more controlled information environment the most (the dumb get dumber, the smart get smarter, and everyone gets more distracted and fickle).


What do you mean by MSM? To me that is “mainstream media”. I don’t understand how that is applicable here.


Mainstream social (or entertainment) media, by which I mean all the content consumption apps your typical non-tech parents or acquaintances in that age group know about (in my case Instagram, Facebook and ragebait meme groups but luckily not yet TikTok; the wider web outside news sites is pretty much unknown).

Reddit or Mastodon for instance I would not call mainstream from my standpoint, but I left the former site many years ago and have no idea about its current popularity (my only contemporary use is when it pops up in my searches as a sort of wildcard forum).

Sorry, if that's not the usual usage of MSM.


MSM usually means "Main Stream Media". So like broadcast and cable news and conventional newspapers. Overloading it to refer to social media is really confusing because social media is pretty much the opposite thing.

"Entertainment news" is a sub-genre of MSM, typically you see this on the cable news channels or the "opinion" section of a newspaper.

If you get your news from Facebook you aren't getting it from "the MSM" as that term is generally understood. I guess you could coin MSSM for "Main Stream Social Media" to differentiate Twitter from Mastodon (or Reddit from HN?) but honestly I think you can just type out "social media" and not die of fatigue.



who _wasn't_ talking about skull and bones in 2003


I’m relistening to the behind the bastards on the Illuminati so…still talking about it to this day lmao




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