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Ah yes. The wonderful suburbs. The home of miserable suburbanites, cheaply and poorly built houses, HoAs and neverending sound of lawn mowers, leaf blowers, etc. The suburbs brings the worst of the rural living without any of its benefits and the worst of city living without any of its benefits together. A match made in hell. It's the worst kind of environmentally damaging dystopian existence filled with the worst kind of people.

There should only be rural and city living. If you want the sun and 'living things', go find a small homestead in a nice rural area with actual living things. No place is more anti-'living things' than a suburb. In order to build sprawling suburbs, we had to wipe out 'living things'.



Some people have different preferences than you so therefore they must be miserable and the worse kind of people? Ok sure

My suburban location is great. It’s quiet and peaceful with no annoying neighbors keeping me up at 2am playing electric guitar (this happened in a previous apartment). And yet I can still walk to dozens of shops and restaurants, unlike a rural area.


the most hilarious kinds of arguments on HN occur when someone like you gets into a heated argument with someone who i.e. thinks that F150's shouldn't be allowed to exist and people should only be allowed to ride bicycles.


I suspect a lot of the urbanites are the millennials and gen y/z's.

Gen X and older were the last generation to see getting a driver's license as a milestone of gaining freedom from parents.

Urbanites were raised by helicopter parents that chauffeured them around and urbanites stayed indoors a lot more since they were raised on the internet and mobile devices.

Why would they like personal forms of transportation, when it was not part of their growing up?


> I suspect a lot of the urbanites are the millennials and gen y/z's.

While there has been a slight adjustment to housing preferences due to a couple housing price bubbles, millenials are largely following the exact footsteps of their parents and buying into suburban neighborhoods. It's always been true that urban living appeals more to young people, and they tend to want something different as they mature.




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