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Everyone has a choice. Choose Android. If you think iPhone is the wrong choice, don't choose it.

Is Android really so terrible that you're having difficulty deciding between it and Apple's walled garden? Surely it's not THAT bad.




Do I understand correctly that you suggest something without even using it?


As a developer I use Android a lot. It's fine. I don't see what the big deal is.


Good, switch to it for a couple of years, use multiple vendors and then let everyone know how Android is a viable alternative to iOS.


>Good, switch to it for a couple of years, use multiple vendors and then let everyone know how Android is a viable alternative to iOS.

"I want Apple to be forced into making the same choices that its competitors made because those competitors' devices are, collectively, a miserable hellscape," isn't the winning argument you seem to think it is.


Completely missing point of what I said and making a straw man out of it isn’t the gotcha moment you seem to think it is.


>Completely missing point of what I said and making a straw man out of it isn’t the gotcha moment you seem to think it is.

Okay, so what's the point of what you said? For reference, you said:

>Good, switch to it for a couple of years, use multiple vendors and then let everyone know how Android is a viable alternative to iOS.

What, then, is the point of what you said? You seem to believe that Android is not a viable alternative to iOS. What specific actions do you believe Apple should be required to take here?


I've been using it for years. It has its issues, but also has its strengths. The biggest issue these days is that Apple has built a walled garden around their messaging system. I can't fault Android for that.


Yes, Android is terrible. This is a duopoly, not a free market. Users are disadvantaged.


If Android is terrible take it up with Google, not Apple.


How about both? And with the regulators, too.


Are you seriously suggesting that it's Apple's fault if Android is terrible?


Yes, I do. There is literally no choice for people who can't afford Apple or for any reason don't like it. In this sense Android is almost a monopoly, which allows it to stay popular and terrible. This is classic duopoly.


If you think Android is "almost a monopoly" then how do you figure that Apple is responsible for breaking that monopoly? Surely it's Microsoft's responsibility. Or perhaps Blackberry's. Or is it Nokia's?

If Android really is a monopoly, perhaps the solution is to break up Google — not to force someone other than Google to turn their product into an Android clone.


In a duopoly, it's the fault of both sides, isn't it? They both misbehave, even though in different ways. I would be happy to break up Google and also (at user's choice) remove the Apple's walled garden.


Between android and ios you have choice between $50 and over $2k of phone prices. You have quite a big choice in terms of smartphone prices/capabilities.

One of iOS key features is it's walled garden. If you don't want that don't buy it. It's like complaining that Ferrari doesn't make Corrolla priced cars. They just... don't. They also don't make 3 cylinder cars making less than 200hp. Buy what fits your needs don't ask Ferrari to make a Camri competitor.


Imagine there was only Ferrari and Corrolla...


Sure. I’m imagining that. I still don’t see how Ferrari should be compelled by law to make economy cars.


This is not at all what I'm asking. I'm asking them not to prohibit me to replace the engine after the warranty is over.


> This is not at all what I'm asking.

Maybe you could be less cryptic? You could start by describing what you'd hope we'd imagine when you said "Imagine there was only Ferrari and Corrolla..."? Because I imagined that and you told me I imagined the wrong thing. That's not how it works. I did exactly what you asked. If you wanted me to imagine something else, you would need to tell me what I should have imagined. Be less cryptic if you want to be understood.

> I'm asking them not to prohibit me to replace the engine after the warranty is over.

Wait, all you want is for Apple to not stand in your way when installing a different operating system on your iPhone? Sure, I'm all for that. I wouldn't expect Apple to be obligated to document the hardware or write drivers for you. You're probably not going to get Apple to give you the source code for Face ID or the secure enclave. But I agree that there's no reason why Apple should make it difficult to install an entirely different operating system.

That's got nothing to do with what you've being saying though.




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