So you are saying the waiting times in the Swedish hospital system have no effect whatsoever?
Right…
Nordics love to pick on US when their own healthcare have up to a decade of waiting times for inportant procedures. Up to two years for even an interview with a specialist.
Every single hospital sydtem in the Nordic countries is broken beyone hell.
Both Sweden and Denmark offer private insurance so you can bypass lines and cut down costs.
Iceland does not.
No idea about Finland and Norway.
In the nordics you pay socialist taxes for what is turning in to a kapitalist system.
I wish my fellow Nordics would grow up and face our crippled internal system of throwing immature comments on the US about our “free” healthcare.
Its neither free nor is it working.
I pay 43% of my salary to taxes.
I also pay private health insurance as do half of the population here.
I also pay road tolls, school fees, taxes because I have a mobile ohone from work due to on call. Taxes because work offers food on premis.
The dentist costs 100 euro just for a basic examination and some xrays.
Food cost is at an all time high, so is heating and electricity.
Nordics celebrating nordic superiority is more like the frog being boiled so slowly he doesnt realize until its too late.
> So you are saying the waiting times in the Swedish hospital system have no effect whatsoever?
I wasn’t saying anything even remotely similar to that.
> Nordics love to pick on US when their own healthcare have up to a decade of waiting times for inportant procedures.
It’s not a competition. There are serious problems within Swedish (and probably Nordic overall) healthcare, in particular non-urgent procedures like hip replacement surgery. We should criticize them both.
However, I’ve been living in both systems. In the US the total cost (both taxes and private) is >2x, and the outcome is significantly worse, in aggregate. Getting what’s considered “excellent” health insurance can still land you in a hell hole of legal disputes and unimaginable medical debt. I absolutely don’t blame you for your disappointment, but the US system is much, much more broken, in aggregate, and not just for “the poor”, but for everyone except perhaps multi-millionaires.
> Its neither free nor is it working.
It’s never free. However “working” is not a boolean, it’s floating point. It can get much, much worse.
> I also pay private health insurance as do half of the population here.
Out of curiosity, where? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but it’s news to me. I thought it was way less common.
> Nordics celebrating nordic superiority is[..]
Beyond stupid, indeed. The mindset “at least we’re better than X” leads to complacency and is a huge flaw in many people’s thinking. Everywhere. I don’t endorse any of that.
Right… Nordics love to pick on US when their own healthcare have up to a decade of waiting times for inportant procedures. Up to two years for even an interview with a specialist.
Every single hospital sydtem in the Nordic countries is broken beyone hell. Both Sweden and Denmark offer private insurance so you can bypass lines and cut down costs.
Iceland does not. No idea about Finland and Norway.
In the nordics you pay socialist taxes for what is turning in to a kapitalist system.
I wish my fellow Nordics would grow up and face our crippled internal system of throwing immature comments on the US about our “free” healthcare.
Its neither free nor is it working.
I pay 43% of my salary to taxes. I also pay private health insurance as do half of the population here.
I also pay road tolls, school fees, taxes because I have a mobile ohone from work due to on call. Taxes because work offers food on premis. The dentist costs 100 euro just for a basic examination and some xrays.
Food cost is at an all time high, so is heating and electricity.
Nordics celebrating nordic superiority is more like the frog being boiled so slowly he doesnt realize until its too late.