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>If you compliment a woman based on (a) getting married and (b) physical attractiveness, you are slightly re-inforcing that meme. You are also signaling that you might be the sort of person who thinks the above, or that you support the above attitudes.

What utter rubbish. So getting married isn't something compliment worthy? A compliment based on physical attractiveness is always sexist?

Absurd.



> What utter rubbish. So getting married isn't something compliment worthy? A compliment based on physical attractiveness is always sexist?

Nice strawmen.

In this context, the personal life of the person being introduced and their physical attractiveness has nothing to do with why they are here. At best it's completely off-topic.

Consider if it was a male presented being introduced with: "...he was an alcoholic when I met him, but now he's been 3 years sober". Completely irrelevant personal details that undermine the credibility of the person for at least some of the audience (not to mention making the person feel awkward).


>In this context, the personal life of the person being introduced and their physical attractiveness has nothing to do with why they are here. At best it's completely off-topic.

It's a bloody startup presentation, not a congressional hearing. Making a nod at the person's personal life, on a subject that's typically cause for celebration (are you going to tell me "Congratulations on your new son/daughter" is sexist and eebil now) is somehow uncalled for?

>Consider if it was a male presented being introduced with: "...he was an alcoholic when I met him, but now he's been 3 years sober"

That's a really crappy example. The things we're talking about here are ostensibly positive.


So getting married isn't something compliment worthy? A compliment based on physical attractiveness is always sexist?

No, but you'll need to find a way to not imply that that's all a woman is good for. This is not easy, so it's easier to just not mention it.

Maybe in a few generations when this isn't as much of a problem we can come back to it.


>No, but you'll need to find a way to not imply that that's all a woman is good for.

How in the hell do you read "All you're good for is having kids" into "Congratulations on getting married!"?

Again. Absurd.


Back in the day (i.e. when Mad Men is set and before), no-one said: "All you're good for is having kids". They didn't directly say that a lot. It was more like pointed reminders that someone was attractive. Or that someone wasn't married, or that someone is finally married (in the vein of "congrats on you finally graduating from college! you're a real person now!"). Or that someone "will make some man very happy", etc.

There is a lot of tradition of impling that the most important thing for a woman is to be married. That's the whole thing. So when you mention, in a setting with few women (and hence more susceptible to sexism), that someone is married, it might sound half like the old ways.




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