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>So next is maybe a major bank failure, or a disease killing a crop or other food that skyrockets prices, or a constitutional crisis following an executive branch election, or a cop killing just the wrong person in the wrong place at the wrong moment. Then, the protests, then, someone somewhere, probably the PRC, seeing an opportunity for severe destabilizion, funding and prodding extremists groups like the proud boys, then lots of blood, maybe a worker's revolution, maybe a reactionary power grab, idk, just bouncing ideas based on how it's gone before.

Hasn't the US experienced and weathered all these events?

>Fwiw I think direct action is still a valid option in the usa. The cops murdered a protestor at the cop city protests yes but the direct action is still getting tons of attention and by many measures, working.

You referring to George Floyd protests? Your english seems a bit off so its unclear. If thats the case, the police responded nationwide by refusing to do their jobs. Crime skyrocketed and now progressive DAs are being recalled, people moving to conservatives states and everybody is worse off than before. The many layers of bureaucracy allowed the police to be "reformed" and not actually have to change anything at the same time. Its a serious failure of the US system.

>So, page out of extinction rebellion book, continue putting obstacles in front of the people destroying the environment or implementing fascism. At the very least it'll slow things down.

Please help me understand what if any obstacles have been placed in front of them in recent years? I can't think of any at all. This next election is looking to be a free ride for Biden to be re-elected and at the very worse it'll be Trump again or Desantis. Trump was supposed to be the outsider candidate but it was business as usual(but worse because we also got his loud mouth and racism). (this is coming from a Bernie guy).



> You referring to George Floyd protests?

The Black Lives Matter protests weren't only in response to George Floyd's murder. I was referring to the murder of Manuel Esteban Paez Terán at the Stop Cop City protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Manuel_Esteban_Paez...

> Crime skyrocketed

This seems to be less to do with cops "refusing to do their jobs," and probably more to do with general economic unrest? I say this because when cops refuse to do their jobs, crime and violence usually go down. https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/09/nyc-cops-did-a-work-...

> Please help me understand what if any obstacles have been placed in front of them in recent years? I can't think of any at all.

Not many, that's my point, Americans should take a page from the book of Extinction Rebellion protestors in the UK and begin disrupting operations, or of German environmentalist protestors who actively disrupt for example coal mining operations. Or perhaps the French, experts in civil disobedience. I think the American zeitgeist is generally extremely conservative which is a large hindrance to mass movements, but also it lacks a strong leftist movement, any form of progressivism seems to have been effectively captured by liberals.

I highly doubt any further progress will be seen from attempting to elect progressive candidates in the USA - the bloodletting I've seen between Bernie Sanders supporters and the rest of the country is a great example of why, he's perhaps one of the most milquetoast socialists on earth and yet even the american "progressive" party viciously turned on him. Considering the captured election system, it seems like Americans that are interested in progress and leftist values should instead seek direct remedies.




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