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that thing where they stop and insist you cross first even though they have the right away really bothers me. it takes longer for both of us and creates a really uncomfortable ambiguity about whether they are actually going to start.

I've just started going up on the sidewalk and dropping a foot to make it clear I'm just not going to cross...or turn if it makes sense

I guess its not as bad the mission post pandemic. seems like people are really blowing through stop signs now



Yes! As a bicyclist on my route I regularly yield to cars that stopped before me on a 4-way stop, but those cars insist I cross first. During broad daylight they often wave to me, but at night it can be difficult to see whether they actually intend to let me cross first.


Yes. As a full time driver and part time pedestrian if someone in a car tries wave me on while I'm on foot I literally turn around and walk in the other direction until they get the hint. Drivers need to practice traffic right away instead of chivalry.




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