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This one touches a nerve because of how frustrating it is that the internet learned a new big word and it spread like wildfire among people who have an axe to grind against trans folks.

Sorry for the 50 minute video but there’s basically nothing I can write that will explain and deconstruct this better than an actual trans woman.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6czRFLs5JQo




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So do many cis women. Watch the video.

The question isn't "Does autogynephilia exist". Yes.

The question is "Is autogynephilia a fetish that people are confusing for transgenderism?" No.


Oh I thought the answer to the last question was a very obvious yes - there’s a clear political trend called ‘self id’ where autogynophiles may deem themselves to be women and are admitted into women’s spaces, and self id is advocated by gender theorists as being exclusively for the benefit of transgender people.


I probably should've worded it differently.

I didn't mean "Is autogynephilia a fetish that people are confusing for transgenderism? (in some cases where bad faith actors will lie, or self-delude, to identify as women to gain access to women's spaces, making broad inclusivity dangerous and difficult)

I meant ""Is autogynephilia a fetish that (only affects transgender) people are confusing for transgenderism (in all cases)?"

Keep in mind, 90% of the time when someone is talking about autogynephilia, they are casting doubt on the very existence/reality of trans people - deeming them fetishists and fraud by default.


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I don't really think you can brand it propaganda. The source is credible and well sourced - you can Google Natalie Wynn/Contrapoints.

It's also a complex topic that has many facets.

However the summary would be that male and female arousal in western society is quite different. Male sexuality is based on perceiving outward - seeing visual stimulus of someone being attractive, and getting turned on.

Female sexuality is based on perceiving inward - making oneself attractive, and being turned on by the reaction that it receives from the partner.

As a result, cis hereto women report feelings that in trans women get called autogynophelia when planning or expecting to meet with a sexual partner, or during sexual encounters.

There is a lot more to it than that.


> Female sexuality is based on perceiving inward - making oneself attractive, and being turned on by the reaction that it receives from the partner.

> As a result, cis hereto women report feelings that in trans women get called autogynophelia when planning or expecting to meet with a sexual partner, or during sexual encounters.

Women feel that they’re sexy women so men can feel they’re sexy women. This is not a compelling argument.




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