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For “all-needs-are-met-ism“ we need almost free energy. We are far from that. The problem will be how to handle people who are bored and do not go to work for a lot of time to waste "bad" energy.


Year over year, the quantity of energy to provide basic needs has decreased. Transportation and housing HVAC is more efficient, and the shift away from physical world such as digital entertainment and remote work also decreases the energy needs.

It used to be that meeting more needs (crudely measured by GDP growth) was directly linked to more energy consumption. That's not the case now for a few decades already, GDP growth has decoupled from energy usage.


In “all-needs-met-ism” there is no wasted “bad” energy. People who don’t want to work go on permanent holiday. That’s where it gets psychologically interesting. How long do you holiday before you want to do something again?

I do concur we are far from it, but the moment we can do free energy print-on-demand anything, it will be possible. Every day the sun outputs energy we use in a year.


a lot of people would just drink and do drugs, because they are unable to self direct. I think that right amnount of struggle keeps people sane.


Your comment suddenly reminds me of Agent Smith paraphrased “we designed the perfect world for you, but your primitive minds tried to wake up from it. Whole harvests where lost.”

I think there can be a lot of neurological imbalance from complete freedom and absence of scarcity. I think on the whole (or at least myself) I could live like that. And nobody in this post scarcity world is barred from doing work if they need it I guess. That’s also a form of post scarcity.




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