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There wouldn't be a single standard desktop with >80% usage regardless of whether GNOME existed, and KDE will merely be among one of many desktop environment options. That's just the nature of how things work in this space.



Look at the history.

In the beginning there was only KDE. And it was regarded THE Unix desktop.

No sane people worked on anything else!

But than Gnome was created as a KDE clone. Solely for political reasons…


You’re talking about Gnome as if it’s an end onto itself. But it did not appear out of thin air just to disrupt KDE’s dominance.

Look at the history again. Look at the names on the emails and posts.

It was done by people, because they wanted it done. For “solely political reasons”? But that’s exactly what politics means: making sure people get what they want. As opposed to everyone having what you want.


> You’re talking about Gnome as if it’s an end onto itself. But it did not appear out of thin air just to disrupt KDE’s dominance.

It did exactly this!

Gnome was created because some people didn't like the Qt license.

There had been zero technical reasons. Still people decided to start form scratch just to have a different license.

> Look at the names on the emails and posts.

Good point!

There is one very special name on that list. Someone who turned out being a Microsoft u-boot according to some very popular "conspiracy theory"…

So if you like conspiracy theories you may add "divide et impera" to the possible reasons for the existence of Gnome. ;-)

> But that’s exactly what politics means: making sure people get what they want. As opposed to everyone having what you want.

It's irrelevant what I would like to have.

The relevant question was and is what would have been best for the Linux desktop as a whole.

Do you really want to argue that the miserable split where everything gets done at least twice is a good outcome?


You are talking as if those two DEs are the only two options in existence. They are not. Xfce started development in 1996 ahead og GNOME. And if the "political reasons" you talked about were related to licensing issues with Qt, then GNOME is not the one to blame for. Asking people to look at the history is only going to make them discover the truth you don't want to admit.


The truth that some people were not able to negotiate but resorted to the most violent method possible to get their will?

Yes, I hope people will discover that truth.

And yes, it was the Gnome people who choose the nuclear option!


If you have to use words like "most violent" and "nuclear" to describe a valid & normal act of launching free & open source software that everyone had the freedom of choice regarding whether to use it or not, you need to seriously re-evaluate your personal priorities and worldview.

I use both GNOME and KDE daily for different use cases, and the fact that people like you who hold such views exist is downright disturbing.


>And it was regarded THE Unix desktop.

That was CDE and for sure nothing like KDE or Gnome.


KDE was regarded the spiritual successor of CDE.


KDE was not "THE UNIX DESKTOP"...it never was, not for a single UNIX. If anything Gnome (aka Java Desktop) was a Unix Desktop (SUN Solaris) and is it still for Oracle Solaris.




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