The same goes for public transit. That's the central argument, don't force other people to live the way you live. Everyone should have a choice in how they conduct their lives.
That's a teenager's point of view, you can't live in a dense community and say "I can do what I want because I'm free", every single of your action have consequences, on you, and on the community.
Of course other people can force you to live a certain way, that's like the whole basis of living in societies, we come up with rules and follow them, these rules change all the time
But haven't you read these well-upvoted opinions? It's the right of the adult to do whatever they want; the student-lifestyle of public transit is the position of the grubby, naive, cooperative youngster. Once you have the resources, you seal yourself away in your bubble -- preferentially ICE-based, of course -- and Become Traffic. It's the culturally superior option, as everybody's known since the 50s, and we here on HN are superior. Our paychecks tell us so. The public transit option, ill-funded as it is, will never be popular, because as sarcastic as I might seem here, I'm also simply describing reality.
Not everyone does, 99% of the world exists outside of cities. You can't apply urban reasoning to the majority of the world. Sure, all actions have consequences but that doesn't mean you need a policeman to supervise every step you take. The only reason societies function is because individuals decide for themselves that they will abide by societal norms. The laws enacted by societies are a tiny fraction of the rules we use to govern our behaviour and none of it would be any use if people simply decided to ignore those rules, hence why crime still exists, sometimes people just DGAF and do what they want for their own reasons.
It's pretty funny being accused of having an immature viewpoint when you are literally appealing to authority to solve all of your problems. Adults need to solve their own.
There are viable alternatives to public transit in dense cities, that don't require a car centric lifestyle. Scooters, electric mopeds, or even low speed vehicles that give you the same privacy and comfort as a car. It just doesn't make sense to use the exact same vehicle in a dense urban neighborhood as you'd use for a cross country road trip.
That's be fine except it's public transport that doesn't get the love car culture does and people get mightily upset that we should even think of improving it.
> don't force other people to live the way you live
ok but you are forcing the consequences of your way of living onto others. I have to pay for all your ridicoulous infrastracture, i face the risk of being killed by your 2 ton monster..
The same goes for public transit. That's the central argument, don't force other people to live the way you live. Everyone should have a choice in how they conduct their lives.