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Didn’t Dobbs return the decision to the states? Isn’t having the decision decided by majority vote the least partisan thing you can do by definition?

If they had truly taken a partisan stance, they would have unilaterally decided to ban abortion based on specious reasoning not unlike Roe.



> Isn’t having the decision decided by majority vote the least partisan thing you can do by definition?

If one party believes something to be an individual right and another party believes it to be a matter for collective/state decision, then no.

(Not that the Democratic party fully sees abortion as an individual right of the mother - after all, the Roe v. Wade decision did not really consider it as such, nor did it legitimize abortion throughout the pregnancy term; and the Democratic party generally supports Roe v. Wade. It has also not tried to put the matter into federal legislation for the 40-odd years between Roe and Dobbs.)


The decision was (more or less) up to individuals before. A state decision is inherently more partisan.


I think the person was referring to decision on the legality of abortion, not the decision of having an abortion. Instead of forcing the legality at the federal level it is now at the state level.


That would be true if States wouldn't overreach themselves and make it illegal for people to seek abortion in another State or prosecute its citizens.

It doesn't take a genius to forsee a standoff between Red and Blue.


States do this with all sorts of other laws. Look at the tax code in states for example. This isn't really unique.


I don't think that most people would agree that anarcholibertarianism (the system which allocates least decisions to state) is the least "partisan" option. That's not what people understand by partisanship.


> Isn’t having the decision decided by majority vote the least partisan thing you can do by definition?

Partisanship is not defined by "rightness" or "closeness to some notion of democracy", it's about closeness to a party line. Overturning Roe was a target of the Republican Party. They did it.


After Dobbs the US is more like the EU.


I feel like a large part of the US population wants to go back to the Articles of Confederation, which were so ineffective as a system of government that they had to be replaced after 12 years.


Americans hatred for their own government is legendary and somewhat bizarre.

It reminds me of the famous clip in Monthy Python: "what have the Romans ever done for us".


Understand that the United States of America arose out of resentment for British governance and thus governance in general. Our literal essence is to distrust and hate all governments.

The US federal and state governments exist strictly at the pleasure of the people and it's written in our Declaration of Independence that we can and will get rid of them all at a moment's notice if they stop enjoying the people's pleasure.

That the Articles of Confederation got canned was a demonstration of the people's power to get rid of government that failed to garner pleasure.

Stuff like our Bill of Rights exist because, yes, we fucking distrust and hate our government so much we felt a need to codify our resentment.


Which states actually feature majority vote = majority representation?


I think we all know very well the partisanship involved, despite the theoretical questions (which might be interesting in another context).

Majority rule is the most partisan thing.




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