haha fair enough, closest cute major city : ) As a longtime South Bay resident, it's super-boring down here and actually many of the same problems, expensive and lots of homeless.

But all of that is beside the point. The real interesting question is whether the companies will yank the leash Musk-style and have everyone come back here, or not. There is a lot of hype in both directions, but I'd say that debate is not settled yet.

Palo Alto joins the room too.

All this talk of "just relax zoning and build housing" is so simplistic that it's actually kinda cute. As if everything else just multiplies accordingly-- streets widen, schools are built, water/power/etc just magically appear whenever residential units are simply permitted.