> ambulances [are] Generally low mileage vehicles, no idea why you'd not be able to use them as EVs.
Because they are neither low mileage and the medical equipment behind needs power. You never want your battery to go flat in an ambulance and lose the mobility and life support at the same time. Also, they're used the way EVs hate most. Accelerate and decelerate constantly while trying to plow through traffic in city centers and rush hours.
> fire trucks Would be excellent EVs. They have super low millage...
I wouldn't want an inextinguishable box of lithium near something hot like a fire. Would you?
> power company trucks [are] Excellent option for EVs because they almost never haul equipment
I don't know how yours operate but the power company trucks I see carry a whole workshop behind, and some of them carries enough spare parts to build a sizeable transformer from scratch. If we are talking about cranes, their hydraulics will consume enough energy to affect their mileage considerably.
> Generators are a thing that pretty much every one of these services will have.
You'd need a couple of 1.2MVA generators to charge these vehicles if you want to do it quickly, with redundancy. And these things are neither small, nor silent or can be deployed anywhere you like. We have a couple of them outside, and boy, they're literally shipping container sized things. This excludes the fuel tanks and other infrastructure they need to be able to generate electricity.
> And, consider this when thinking of a "grid down" situation. How do you pump fuel if the grid is down?
Uh, just pour fuel to the tanks or pump with a manual pump?
> I wouldn't want an inextinguishable box of lithium near something hot like a fire. Would you?
This.
My brother is a captain for a fire department. I visited the hall many times with him and found the station design odd. He told me it is built that way because there have been cases of fire trucks being too close to major fires, and the truck catching fire back at the station.
The station has "blast doors" that automatically close if the bay is on fire to protect the rest of the station. (sounds funny right.. fire halls catching fire??)
Not sure they would want a "flammable metals" fire in their bay.
And how do they deal with the tank of explosive fluids inside fire trucks today?
Precautions around keeping a fuel tank from catching fire work the same for batteries. Better, because lithium batteries have an ignition temperature at 2000F and gasoline's is 500F and diesel at 410F.
This is a shockingly high amount of FUD but little facts.
Lets start at the top shall we?
Diesel doesn't "burn" like gasoline does.
"If you toss a lit match into a puddle of diesel fuel, it'll go out."
You need to atomize it first, or heat it up a lot so it starts to "flash" or it wont "burn".
So, a firetruck with a large diesel tank is fairly safe because it takes a LOT to get it to start burning. At first all the heat is simply absorbed by the diesel slowing warming it up until it reaches its flash point.
Next, your temperatures are beyond MESSED UP.
Ignition temperature for a lithium battery is just 121 C
Because they are neither low mileage and the medical equipment behind needs power. You never want your battery to go flat in an ambulance and lose the mobility and life support at the same time. Also, they're used the way EVs hate most. Accelerate and decelerate constantly while trying to plow through traffic in city centers and rush hours.
> fire trucks Would be excellent EVs. They have super low millage...
I wouldn't want an inextinguishable box of lithium near something hot like a fire. Would you?
> power company trucks [are] Excellent option for EVs because they almost never haul equipment
I don't know how yours operate but the power company trucks I see carry a whole workshop behind, and some of them carries enough spare parts to build a sizeable transformer from scratch. If we are talking about cranes, their hydraulics will consume enough energy to affect their mileage considerably.
> Generators are a thing that pretty much every one of these services will have.
You'd need a couple of 1.2MVA generators to charge these vehicles if you want to do it quickly, with redundancy. And these things are neither small, nor silent or can be deployed anywhere you like. We have a couple of them outside, and boy, they're literally shipping container sized things. This excludes the fuel tanks and other infrastructure they need to be able to generate electricity.
> And, consider this when thinking of a "grid down" situation. How do you pump fuel if the grid is down?
Uh, just pour fuel to the tanks or pump with a manual pump?