> Ultimately the hygiene benefits of closing the lid when flushing are negligible in most situations.
I wasn't commenting on any supposed benefits for flushing, purely aesthetics and manners.
> [studies fail to show they] have higher rates of disease, or that the pathogen exposure
Nor did I claim anything of the sort.
> it's a bit weird referring to them as "these people"
Are they not people? They are certainly not all people. What would you have me say?
> I don't think this habit is constrained to those who publicly joke about it.
Nor do I, I said you can 'often' tell. The public joking happens often (enough for it to come to mind, evidently) and you can tell that about those people. I made no claim about the others - though if they're laughing at the joke that's probably a good indicator too.
I wasn't commenting on any supposed benefits for flushing, purely aesthetics and manners.
> [studies fail to show they] have higher rates of disease, or that the pathogen exposure
Nor did I claim anything of the sort.
> it's a bit weird referring to them as "these people"
Are they not people? They are certainly not all people. What would you have me say?
> I don't think this habit is constrained to those who publicly joke about it.
Nor do I, I said you can 'often' tell. The public joking happens often (enough for it to come to mind, evidently) and you can tell that about those people. I made no claim about the others - though if they're laughing at the joke that's probably a good indicator too.