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> This essentially forces someone else to purchase the company, as the total license fees for a company like Google/Apple could outstrip the straight acquisition cost.

The value of fees paid by these companies is nowhere near the value of Arm.

> If there's no future in their IP then ARM is just a glorified patent troll

Seriously? Qualcomm wants to use IP that was 100% developed by Arm and is used in billions of smartphones and other devices around the world. You may not think that it has value but Qualcomm clearly does.




>IP that was 100% developed by Arm and is used in billions of smartphones and other devices around the world.

You mean the ISA? Qualcomm has a license to the ISA that allows them to make and sell custom microarchitectures. They had it before they acquired Nuvia.

>You may not think that it has value but Qualcomm clearly does.

Qualcomm will likely push RISC-V hard, thus not use ARM ISA at all, from now on.

Refer to this recent announcement by SiFive[0] for some Qualcomm quotes that hint at that.

0. https://www.sifive.com/press/sifives-new-high-performance-pr...


> Qualcomm will likely push RISC-V hard, thus not use ARM ISA at all, from now on.

You do know that exaggerated statements like this - which is obviously false - actually harm your cause in promoting RISC-V.


What's your rationale for declaring it false?

The exact quote is:

>"We are excited to see RISC-V solutions for wearable and consumer devices becoming a reality, and we are looking at possibilities of integrating SiFive’s latest products into Snapdragon platforms,” said Ziad Asghar, Vice President, Product Management- Snapdragon Technologies and Roadmap at Qualcomm.

edit: I meant "Qualcomm will likely push RISC-V hard, thus not choose ARM ISA at all, from now on." -- My bad.


Read what you said again and particularly 'at all from now on'.

And please take note of what I'm saying. You really don't do your cause any favours with this approach.


choose ARM vs use ARM.

i.e. they will not be using ARM by choice anymore.

Unfortunately, I cannot edit the parent post anymore; As it's often the case, it's easy to miss things even when re-reading your own comments.

It was blatantly obvious when reading it again now.

To get back on topic... you said:

>Qualcomm wants to use IP that was 100% developed by Arm

And then I told you,

>You mean the ISA? Qualcomm has a license to the ISA that allows them to make and sell custom microarchitectures. They had it before they acquired Nuvia.

You have not addressed that, at all.




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