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I personally like a lot of single use plastic. What’s the cheap alternative to keep food in an air tight seal from the factory to your home?

There is a lot of greenwashing around packing that’s more environmentally harmful to create because they decay when left outside. Except if both products are sent to the landfill then they don’t provide any advantages.




> What’s the cheap alternative to keep food in an air tight seal from the factory to your home?

Why do you need a tight seal? You can safely transport meat, fish, seafood from source to home with basic hygiene measures.


>You can safely transport meat, fish, seafood from source to home with basic hygiene measures.

You can, but it doesn't last nearly as long, which means more food waste due to spoilage. At my local supermarket meat that has been packaged in airtight bags have best before dates of 2-3 weeks. Meanwhile meat that's wrapped with non-airtight plastic wrap have best before dates of a week at most. The meats I get from the butcher counter do even worse.


If you are consuming meat in 3 weeks either buy it and freeze it or buy it in three weeks.

These plastic uses are solutions to problems that don't exist.


> If you are consuming meat in 3 weeks either buy it and freeze it or buy it in three weeks.

Freezing ruins the texture of the meat. Buying it in 3 weeks is more expensive because it's no longer on sale. Given the choice between slightly more plastic and saving $1+/lb, I'm choosing latter every time. Also, you focusing on the consumer side entirely misses the retail side. According to the USDA 7% of meat/seafood is lost due to spoilage at the retail level alone. This is with plastic packaging. Going back to wrapping everything with pink butcher paper will certainly be worse.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/44306/10895_ei...


I strongly disagree, plastic wrapping is the same as clorinating chicken.

You are introducing an extra industrial step to save the additional cost of maintain sanitary conditions throughout the supply chain.

> Freezing ruins the texture of the meat.

Unless you are grilling some very premium beef cut and eating it without any rub or marination, I strongly doubt the majority of people would even know the 'texture' difference in a blind test.


> I strongly disagree, plastic wrapping is the same as clorinating chicken.

>You are introducing an extra industrial step to save the additional cost of maintain sanitary conditions throughout the supply chain.

Vacuum packing meat increases shelf life because the lack of air halts aerobic decomposition. That's not something that can be replicated by "sanitary conditions".


It’s not just about the cost at the supply chain. If hypothetically 3% more food spoils, that’s roughly equivalent to 3% of all environmental impact of all farming and fishing. All the pesticides, land use, runoff fertilizer, fuel, methane production etc adds up to vastly more than the costs from plastics.

We think of costs in terms of money but shipping more crap means more fuel and thus more global warming etc.


I find I frequently end up throwing out expired unopened plastic packages of food that have been sitting in the back of my fridge for weeks. Whereas whenever I get meat from the butcher counter I eat it that very day or the next.


A container with a lid?


Without an airtight seal you get increased spoilage. Something like 3% increased food spoilage might not sound like much but it’s equivalent to increasing the total environmental impact of farming, fishing, and food packaging industries by over 3%, which is massive.


Ok... but a container with a lid is usually sealed air tight, no? A ziploc bag is airtight. A jar is air tight. A screw on cap is air tight, etc. etc.

Am I missing something?


Your ziplock bag is plastic, cheap non plastic containers aren’t generally airtight. A cereal boxes and similar items have a sealed plastic bag inside to prevent the food from going stale by the time you open it.

Sure a glass jar with a rubber gasket works as would a tin can etc, but they require a lot of energy and resources to make which means real environmental costs. Aluminum foil is one of the better options cost wise but it requiers a lot of energy and it’s even less biodegradable than plastic.




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