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I use it as the modifier key for my window manager shortcuts so I just think of it as the lowercase w windows key and not the uppercase W Windows key and it's fine.



it's very clearly an operating system logo though, it's like if you had the Pepsi logo on your water dispenser on your fridge. Would look weird and out of place.

EDIT: I'm being downvoted and I'm note sure why, perhaps a lot of the newer folks aren't aware of what it used to look like; it was very clearly "Windows the operating system": https://i.redd.it/fnligi5oa0h51.jpg


Windows keyboards are designed around the Windows OS so they feature that logo? I have an Ethernet adapter with an Apple logo on it but it's plugged into a Dell running Linux. Is that absurdly out of place? I just don't understand this thread at all.


By "windows keyboards" you likely mean the very common IBM PC Keyboard layout which was expanded many times, most famously in 1994 with the addition of 2 keys: Windows and Menu

I do wonder why my laptop which I bought with Linux pre-installed has another vendors operating system logo as a standard key on an otherwise vendor neutral keyboard.

I wonder why IBM, who created many keys that I commonly use on my keyboard does not have their logo anywhere.

The "fridge" analogy was because the universal sign for "liquid" is not "Pepsi".

But imagine that the keyboard had other vendor logos, the "B" is the Broadcom logo, because frankly it's almost assured that there is Broadcom tech in there. Intel puts an "intel inside" logo for turning on numlock since they're the owners of the patent.

Just feels surreal, silly, and very out of place.

Unless of course you say "all non-Apple personal computers are exclusively Windows PCs" which feels a bit grotesque to cede control in such a way. Even when Intel was extremely dominant in CPU manufacture did we allow them to put their logo into standards in this way. (thunderbolt, USB et al.)

You'll say "ah, but they invented a new key and it was useful so we kept it" except;

1) no: while they popularised a "Windows Natural Keyboard" layout with this key in 1994, Super and Meta keys predate them by about 10 and 20 years respectively; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_key_(keyboard_button) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_key

2) creating something useful doesn't grant you license to advertise with it forever, even if it had been original.


> By "windows keyboards" you likely mean the very common IBM PC Keyboard layout.

The Windows keyboard is a 27+ year old design made for Windows PCs. "IBM PC" is like talking about Greek antiquity and has no relevance.

Your Linux laptop came with a Winkey because the manufacturer was lazy. Maybe tell them to try harder?

> Unless of course you say "all non-Apple personal computers are exclusively Windows PCs" which feels a bit grotesque to cede control in such a way.

Windows sits at 87% market share. This is "I use Bing to Google things" levels of silliness.

I say this as an exclusive Linux user of 20+ years, btw.


> Windows sits at 87% market share.

Only in 1 Market Segment; and in 1994 they didn't even have that.

So what's your point exactly?


The current Windows logo is just four squares, that's hardly an obvious logo. It's not even that different from the looped square, or the meta diamond.


Your fridge almost certainly has some logos on it


I hate when people downvote without saying why... maybe because there is no reason except: "I do not like your opinion, I have no better one, but I do not like yours"

This is yet another example. I see no wrong in this comment. I would like that HN changes something about it.


You (not OP) are being downvoted because your post has no content other than complaining about post votes, and that's in the HN guidelines as something not to do.

> Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

OP's comment hasn't been meaningfully downvoted; it's still black text. Yours has, though.


One of the most common uses for 'left-win' is switching keyboard layouts. Right-win and the silly context menu button are mostly unused.




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