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Is that really in-line with reality though?

Cycling was becoming quite common in the UK and it was actively suppressed by urban planning because the stance was that "it was for the poors" and car travel (a newer mode of transport) was much preferred because it was luxurious.

Jay Foreman has a good video on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gohSeOYheXg




The popularity of the bicycle predates the rise of the automobile by a few decades.

None of the article snippets in the linked thread even mention the existence of automobiles.

But don’t worry, I’m certain these same type of articles were written about automobiles as well during their rise in the early 1900s.


People can't help but make this whole thread about cars vs bikes. It's a shame because there's a way more interesting story here about the humans instinct to blame "insert current thing" for everything.


I do not see how it can be anything other than cars vs bikes, or really, personal cars vs walking/bicycling/public transit.

The space and design parameters optimizing for personal cars, especially at US vehicle sizes, is contradictory to design parameters for other modes of transport.


Nowadays you can buy a great bike for $1000 and be totally satisfied with it, ride it for years, or you can shell out $15000 for the top of the line model. And I'm talking about regular bikes, not e-bikes.


I paid 400€ for mine and it was the most expensive bike I've ever bought. And I honestly still consider that too much.

There's people who cycle as method of transportation, and those who cycle as a sport. It's only the ones cycling as sport who need this expensive stuff.


You don't get much bike for 400€ nowadays, maybe an entry level Decathlon model. I think I built my last classic road bike for a bit more than that amount out of a mix of second hand parts and a new cockpit, tires, chain and brake pads.


This is the one I've got: https://boc24.de/products/bocas-bari-trapez it was on sale for 350€, I added https://www.bumm.de/de/produkte/dynamo-scheinwerfer/produkt/... and now I'm more than happy for what I use my bike for (fietsen). Obviously, I wouldn't enter a race with it, but why would I?


It's ok to move around town if you don't have any hills, I suppose.


The city I grew up in and used this kind of bike just fine in has ~70m height difference between the hilly parts and the flat parts.

Sure, you won't be able to cycle up to the Zugspitze with it, but for cycling in a regular hilly town it's enough, 7 gears are fine and the brakes are good enough as well.


https://www.internet-bikes.com/1013656-amigo-classic-c1-26-i...

Perfectly functional sports utility vehicle for less than €200

If you want to add some cargo space in the front, you're in the price range the GP mentioned: https://www.omafiets-online.nl/omafietsen/Spirit-Cargo-Trans...




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