Phoenix (and similar projects, but this is the best I tried), are what things are supposed to be like. React etc are depressingly overly complex for the programmer imho. I mean I made very large (because it's more popular so more people want it) react/react native applications and I made large-ish phoenix & laravel livewire applications. There is simply no comparison in the experience as far as i'm concerned. Sure there are negatives to the Phoenix approach, but nothing can make up for the productivity you gain.
Could you elaborate on differences between Liveview and Livewire from your point of view? The Elixir/Phoenix seems to be much more suited to this approach because of websockets. PHP/Laravel have to do everything through http requests and it seems it would be limiting? If the Livewire approach worked well it would be theoretically possible to use it in pretty much any system that speaks http (RoR already also has hotwire).
I am mostly curious if i should try Livewire for next smaller project.
