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So "privacy of money movement" is not "money laundering". I see.

Y'all always wanna talk about what people could use the system for and never what people actually are using it for.

Well, if it's just about privacy, then I guess those people could use other forms of money laundering. Aherm, I mean "privately moving large sums of money around to avoid regulatory oversight".




People are using the system for these reasons. Vitalik himself has gone on record saying he has used Tornado Cash to donate large sums of money anonymously to Ukraine.


Conveniently no way to actually verify that


lol, the goalposts have shifted from “nobody uses it for this” to “we can’t know if people use it for this.”

Imagine applying this logic to E2EE chat: we can’t know if anybody is using it for legitimate reasons, because we can’t see their messages.

Besides, you can check the chain yourself - if Vitalik is truthful, you should see at least that some tornado linked funds have been donated to Ukraine after the point he placed them in the protocol.


When governments are not able to know wth you're doing all the time they get worried.

Remember the Patriot act? Or that it went after Phil Zimmermann (creator of PGP)? I see some parallels here.

PGP can be used for law abiding private communication as well as non-law abiding private communication. Maybe we need to rethink the use of https?

A little of a stretch, but you can say that there are law abiding gun owners and non law abiding gun owners. What should we do about that?

I tend to raise an eyebrow, when the government uses the excuse kids/guns/terrorist/criminals to intrude into my privacy.




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