Privacy nhilists, mostly. If Facebook has all my data, and I want to keep using Gacebook, I'm forced into some position about their information policies. I've heard if from a lot of guilty-pleasure Tiktok users, many of who are also Facebook users.

Facebook offers a lot of flexibility in terms of data collection. Look at their privacy settings. They’ve gotten really good.

True most people will go with the default. But you have lots of sat, especially compared Reddit.

Google is good about this too.

Saying Facebook and Google are good at privacy now is like saying fast food has better nutrition in recent years.

Meanwhile in countries that actually care a lot about privacy with good historical reason, like Germany, have no problem using open source and self hosted services whenever possible, especially at the state level.

Are you saying the services like Mastadon have widespread adoption in Germany?

Mastodon seems to have a dramatically higher European userbase than US. That much seems clear from my time on it.

Also the German government, French government and others are using open chat systems like Matrix and favoring open source privacy respecting office and documents systems, forgoing giving the US government controlled FAANG companies, who happily have the CIA/NSA as customers, too much control of their internal affairs.

My favorite evidence of the radically different culture is going to hacker conferences.

Go to Defcon and everyone has a stock Chromebook or a Macbook. The Privacy Village asks everyone to accept the ToS of Discord, Twitch, and Google to participate. It would be a funny joke if it were not so sad.

Meanwhile at CCC in Germany... you are hard pressed to find anything proprietary at all from running the conference to the tools of choice of those that attend it. Germans remember well the cost of giving too much control of information to a central party. They have no problem making some UX tradeoffs to have freedom.

Politicians, diplomats and legislators, as that affects USA economy.

It depends on which social media you use but reddit and twitter both have such comments. But of course it also depends on whom you're following/which subreddit you're in.

Authentic comments? Both platforms are stuffed with bots used for manufacturing consent. You can't take anything you read there at face value.

What is a consent manufacturing bot?

Yeah, this isn't something most people even have on their minds. The only complaints I typically see are about all the dumb cookie banners on websites. In terms of the actual protections themselves the only opinions I've encountered are either near total ignorance of the subject or envy that the EU has at least something protecting them while here it's a free for all on your data.

In the beginning a lot of people were concerned about GDPR, because it could open any US business with a website up to liability. FAANG has lawyers to deal with this, but a small business or startup does not. But, I think those fears have calmed down.

It's just yet another step towards a two-tiered society. Those laws are in place and will be selectively enforced as the burden is too high for government departments to proactively monitor / investigate. The small companies least equipped to fight a lawsuit / investigation / fine are more vulnerable than the large companies that have their own lawyers.

Really? You haven't seen the countless people decrying how confusing and hard GDPR is to implement?

Right, yes nobody on HN ever complains about GDPR. Sure thing.