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This may be the case for some but the Catholic worldview is both pro-life and extremely sex-positive, in the appropriate context.

If you're talking about not just "women who have sex" but "~women~ people who have sex without regard for the children whom they may conceive", then yeah I'm against that kind of sex.




The Catholic Church opposes the use of condoms[1]. Even in areas of the world where AIDS is rampant. They are not sex-positive, they are procreation-positive.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_HIV/AIDS

Edit: I suppose the Catholic Church is sex-positive when it comes to their clergy and underage parishioners. Disclaimer: I went to Catholic school for 11 years.


> Catholics oppose the use of condoms

Not really. Catholic doctrine might, American Catholics, especially, do not:

https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2016/09/28/poll-finds-...

> Even in areas of the world where AIDS is rampant.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/02/18/health/zika-pope-francis-cont...

(Benedict XVI made somewhat similar comments in 2010 regarding AIDS in Africa.)


> Catholic doctrine might, American Catholics, especially, do not

This is unfortunately true (but unsurprisingly so, especially these days). That doesn't mean that they're somehow right; they don't speak for the Church.


> The Catholic Church opposes the use of condoms[1]. Even in areas of the world where AIDS is rampant.

Correct.

> They are not sex-positive, they are procreation-positive.

They are both. "Sex-positive" doesn't mean "anything goes".

> I suppose the Catholic Church is sex-positive when it comes to their clergy and underage parishioners.

No, the Church is harshly critical of this kind of thing. The fact that individual offenders have been shuffled around for decades is to our shame and to the shame of their bishops, but nonetheless the Church is not "for" this kind of thing in any way.

> I went to Catholic school for 11 years.

At least in America, I'd say the majority of Catholic schools are only nominally Catholic.


> No, the Church is harshly critical of this kind of thing. The fact that individual offenders have been shuffled around for decades is to our shame and to the shame of their bishops, but nonetheless the Church is not "for" this kind of thing in any way.

I prefer to judge the church on its actions, not on its words. The bishops/cardinals in question got lofty appointments as their "punishment"[1].

[1] https://theconversation.com/the-catholic-churchs-grim-histor...

> Cardinal Law was neither indicted nor arrested. Instead, Pope John Paul II transferred Law to run one of the Vatican’s most cherished properties, the Basilica of Saint Mary, essentially rewarding Law for his deft cover-up of the abuses in Boston.


The Church is not a democracy. The opposition to condoms at the top is has serious consequences the world over, regardless of what Americans feel. If their stated policy is causing needless deaths, what is the value of the policy, and what is the value of the institution promoting such a policy?


> If you're talking about not just "women who have sex" but "~women~ people who have sex without regard for the children whom they may conceive", then yeah I'm against that kind of sex.

The best way to ensure that children are treated with appropriate regard is to ensure that fewer unwanted children are born.




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