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> Western companies and government pulling out of Russia

you can't really blame the companies for not wanting to be associated in any way with a nazist regime genociding a neighboring country.

And Starbucks or Mercedes pulling out of Russia isn't punishment. It is freedom of association and economic activity. Russians are whining about "punishment" because they have no idea about freedom, and that is them getting a bit of taste of it. They think they can plaster whole country with their swastika - "Z" - in enthusiastic support of the bloody genocide while the whole word shouldn't be able to express its disgust at those happenings.

Especially funny how Russians are cry-baby style whining about supposed violation of their property rights by the West sanctions while Russians have been violating property rights of more than 40 million of Ukrainians (even if we don't consider all the mass killing and raping of civilians that Russians have been doing there). The deep and profound disintegration of any morals in my old country is stunning.

>or issuing sanctions on private individuals.

due to the size of their wealth and the de-facto rules of economic activity in Russia those aren't private wealth of private individuals - they are integral part of that nazist regime, and thus they are guilty too.

And for the sanctioned Russian government officials - that is for example the Roskosmos CEO Rogozin, who is one of the main founders of the Russian Nazi movement "Motherland" (people from which has since taken prominent roles across the Russian government and the ruling Party) and who is one of the most prominent voices around Putin and the Putin's favorite, giving a Nazi salute and the end of his Nazi speech at the Russian Nazi march in Moscow. The specific phrase they all give Nazi salute to is "Glory to Russia!".

https://youtu.be/xkXVVcPWSU8?t=87




It was hilarious when people from Moscow wrote "they took away our ability to buy Chanel bags, so much for European tolerance!"

Not even seeing the irony. What did they expect in response to bombing, pillaging, mass rape? Friendly hug?


If I counted every time a NATO member committed worse atrocities but wasn't held accountable at all I'd probably stop after Ukraine is conquered.

What did they expect? Probably indifference, same reaction to any war crime committed by the west so far.


Say what you want, most people in Eastern Europe, Ukraine and even lots of people in Russia would prefer to be under protection of NATO.

If it were not for NATO, Russian rapists would already be in Tallinn, Vilnius, Helsinki. Claiming they were offended by historical injustices therefore women should be raped and men shot dead ("denazified").


> Say what you want, most people in Eastern Europe, Ukraine and even lots of people in Russia would prefer to be under protection of NATO.

Not the people in Donbass and Crimea apparently.

> Russian rapists

Oh please, quit the blatant Lyudmila Denisova propaganda. She was fired by your own government for all the falsehood she spread.


Unfortunately firing Lyudmila Denisova doesn't unrape all the victims of all those mass rapes by Russian soldiers in Ukraine. She was doing propaganda and Ukraine rightly fired her for that.

Russian soldiers have been shooting civilians at will (it is called "safari" in Russian army, and those Bucha streets - Yablunska and Vokzalnaya - with the bodies lying along the street is an example of such a "safari"). That would be an unique miracle in history if the soldiers wouldn't rape given such power in such conditions (for example those mass rapes by Soviet soldiers - 2 million of women were raped - back then in Germany in 1945 illustrate a result of such a power by the occupying force). And there is no miracle - just google Ukrainian rapes.


Just want to point out the mass rape claims were fabricated. Ukraine even fired Lyudmila Denisova over the ordeal:

https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/06/01/ukrainian-official-fir...


No, there are credible and quite horrifying reports[1]. Also some of the actual rapists were found out and victimes stepped forward. Please don't spew Russian propaganda.

[1] https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/04/18/i-can-do-whatever-i-...


How is it Russian propaganda? It's been widely reported by western sources that Denisova was fired by Ukrainian officials for lying specifically about the mass rape claims.

I'm not suggesting there have been no rapes or that Russians are the good guys. Just that the reports of mass rapes were fabricated (Denisova admitted she thought it would help Ukraine obtain more sympathy and weapons from the west).




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