You remind me of those doctors that needed clinical evidence to prove babies don't feel pain during surgery lol.

But I will say, everything I've said lines up with the scientific literature, so I can have my cake and eat it too, backed by both personal experience (skin in the game) and an informed understanding of the biochemistry at play and randomized, controlled trials with large populations.

If you're curious, and not just trying to nitpick out of a deep, misplaced sense of cyncism, I highly recommended diving into the literature and doing some reading.

Elicit.org is one of my favorite tools for gathering information, although the "Takeaways" can be sometimes be wrong so I highly recommend reading the abstract too.

You remind me of the legions of people on the internet who think they have understood or discovered something due to dubious interpretation of relationships which are non-causal, especially among application of self care or care of others.

I have a colleague who hands out TCM 'remedies' every day, she and her patients all believe they work, in the medical sense, in a very rational way.

Even though 'Western Medicine' has a pretty good foundation, it's layered in complexity and ambiguity.

So if someone had some recurrent, acute issue, that was solved with some diet or action change that was discernibly impactful - maybe. That would be worthy of note.

For example: "I had chronic fatigue - mostly we changed my diet to low carbs, no alcohol, regular sleeping and basic cardio + vitamin D due to deficiency and within a few months it was gone". That rings reasonable.

But 'these are 10 things that worked' raises many red flags.

I've had CFS myself - and ran the gambit of different angles of attack on it, and it's a tricky set of symptoms that doesn't even represent a verifiable ailment: CFS, lethargy etc. is the result of a bunch of different things which we do not even fully understand.

More important note what I just said: 'symptoms' not an 'underlying condition'. There are multiple things that cause them. Even the notion of treating 'symptoms' before arriving at a proper diagnosis is a pretty giant red flag.

Some of symptoms described could feasibly be the result of forms of ulcers, cancer, HIV, iron deficiency, kidney problems, liver problems, adrenal gland problems, gluten intolerance etc. etc..

So no - we don't just go to 'Probiotics and Vitamin D' - necessarily.

Personally - getting rid of energy drinks and sleeping a regular schedule 'cured' me but it's rather impossible to tell what did what. But merely seeking medical advice, and knowing it was not 'something serious' (like Cancer) was a huge load off my shoulders, which can affect recovery dramatically. In fact, I literally started feeling better the day I knew I wasn't dying. But that's just me.

If someone is feeling tired consistently and it's clearly not due to some obvious event or issue - then they should !! see a doctor !! and go from there.