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By that logic my oven, or gas stove, is ferociously dangerous—especially if I stick my head in it while it’s turned on.



If your oven can give you a fatal dose of anything in seconds, I recommend replacing it ASAP.

Sticking your hand in a food-grade oven will not give you burns. When you touch the insides, you will receive second degree burns, but those burns are not going to be fatal. On top of that, the oven can be turned off, and is completely safe to handle in that state. and the oven will need to be state.

Comparing your oven with spent fuel rods is ridiculous (assuming you are referring to a food-grade oven operated on gas or electricity).


Yea it can definitely give me fatal burns, especially if I remove the shielding thing on the front of it.


Only when it's turned on, or hot for a short time after it's been turned off.

Neither apply to nuclear waste.


Yes but my point is that the nuclear waste exhibits those characteristics of danger only when it's unsheathed.


But you will be aware that you are being hurt. And only you will be hurt.

A single fuel rod can kill millions without them even knowing why they are dying.

Your daughter will not die from playing with a burning stove, she will burn her fingers and stop. In Brazil, a little girl ate an egg with radioactive dust on it. [0]

Your stove will not slowly kill people living on the other side of the wall.[Happened in russia].

The water supply will not be ruined if you drop your stove into it. If someone puts your oven in a truck full of fertilizer and detonates it in a large city, it will not kill millions of people and make a large area unsuitable for human life for thousands of years.

So fuel rods really are ferociously dangerous, in a way that very little else on this earth is.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident


The same farcical logic can be applied to any substance in a hazardous concentration. PFAS, heavy metals, the list is long. Sure they won't instantly fry you but it's basically guaranteed terminal illness if you have enough expose.

As we've seen from the industrial hazards of the 20th century, once people start dropping dead the living start asking questions. It's impossible to really kill that many people with a spill of any type. Poison a watershed, render land uninhabitable, sure, but killing millions is childish fantasy.


Radiation is easily detectable, compared to say, carbon pollution and its effect on health. If it were actually released into the environment, we'd know about it.


No that's not true, radiation is not easily detectable it requires advanced instruments. Humans can't detect it at all. Instantly lethal doses will cause you to vomit, but you're a already a walking corpse by then.

Carbon pollution you can smell and feel long before it's lethal.


What type of radiation does spent fuel emit that isn't easily detectable? Geiger counters are pretty cheap: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geiger_counter


You know perfectly well that until Geiger counters or scintillation counters are regularly included in smartphones, people will simply not be carrying them. So, no, it's not easily detectable for the vast portion of the human population.




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