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Evidence please.



Honestly would if really surprise anyone at this point? It's already widely known that a Tory member's family was receiving government money for PPE. Everything they do is for their own benefit.


> It's already widely known that a Tory member's family was receiving government money for PPE.

Why don't you cite the specific example then and we can discuss it.

> Honestly would if really surprise anyone at this point?

The intellectual dishonesty to use this as an argument is staggering.


You're probably right that it's better to cite things, especially on what is a US-centric forum.

However, as someone in the UK, the corruption that went on here with regards to PPE and many other government contracts is widely known and just a google search away.

Sorry - but your faux outrage concerning intellectual dishonesty reads as exactly that ...

That people speculate cynically over the actions of the current government is directly a result of the mistrust they have grown in the electorate. Reap it.


'...and just a google search away.

Oh, the irony!


> Why don't you cite the specific example then and we can discuss it.

Top result for [1]

[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=a+Tory+member's+family+was+r...


> Evidence please.

You are asking for evidence for something which hasn't happened yet. Obviously nobody can provide that evidence. How could they? The comment you are responding to was obviously worded as a speculation about a future event.

Latter on the thread you are asking for something else. Evidence for some other example.

> Why don't you cite the specific example then and we can discuss it.

Your wish is my command. Let me catch you up on the specifics:

https://www.transparency.org.uk/sites/default/files/pdf/publ...

Page 20: "In total, we count at least 73 contracts relating to the COVID-19 response between February and November 2020, worth over £3.7 billion, whose awards merit further investigation. Mapping all of these contracts against data from TED, we notice that by volume and value, most of the questionable contracts were awarded during the same heightened period of activity between March and June 2020 as mentioned above (see Graph 5). The majority of these by volume (65) and by value (£2.9 billion) were contracts for PPE equipment; 24 of which worth £1.6 billion went to those with known political connections to the party of government in Westminster. A further three contracts worth £536 million also went to politically connected companies for testing related services. We note there are additional contracts awarded to politically connected companies relating to communications and research services, although these were published after our last data extraction from TED on 30 November 2020."

To avoid confusion, and because it seems you are naïve to the UK political situation I would like to mention that when the report says "political connections to the party of government in Westminster" that refers to the Tory party. Just mentioning because clearly you are not up to date on the recent events.


> You are asking for evidence for something which hasn't happened yet. Obviously nobody can provide that evidence. How could they? The comment you are responding to was obviously worded as a speculation about a future event.

No it wasn't, it was a statemet of specific fact. It was not phrased as speculation.

The government gave a contract to pretty much anyone who said they could supply PPE. A false emergency narrative was crafted to chuck procurement procedures out the window. Clapped on by catastrophists.

Complaining about people like Randox who were one of the only companies in the country with facilities to build covid tests getting a contract to manufacture covid tests is beyond inane.




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