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> If New York City were all White, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent. In an all-White Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.

This is way outside the extrapolation region and strongly asserts an unsupported hypothesis. What if it isn't the person's race that causes these reported and tabulated crimes (versus those unreported or let go)? What if it is poverty, intergenerational stress, and systemic differential treatment that drives people to commit crime?

Hint: white people commit a lot of crime too.


"poverty, intergenerational stress, and systemic differential treatment"

None of those terms, nor their arbitrary meanings, account for people who are in a similar financial or socio-economic situation, and yet don't commit car-jackings, rape, robbery, white collar crime, or shootings. Neither does it account for people in the exact same socio-economic situation moving up and thriving instead of victimizing families in their communities.

"intergenerational stress"

What exactly does this mean in the context of one's behavior?

That the car-jacker who murdered a mother and her baby in order to escape prison bares a reduced responsibility for the crime? That at some point 200 to 10,000 years ago, some ill that befell someone with a similar skin color somehow absolves them of responsibility, or lessens the magnitude of their atrocity?

Crime, like racism, isn't limited to just one race. I never implied otherwise.

It is never the race that causes people to commit crime. Crime occurs in all races, globally.

And in ever single case, it is the individual's choice to commit crime.

What happened to their great-great-grandfather is irrelevant.


> What happened to their great-great-grandfather is irrelevant.

Incorrect. Consider: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/06/the-cas...

> Crime, like racism, isn't limited to just one race. I never implied otherwise.

Yes, you did when you said replace all people with white people and crime rate craters. Perhaps unintentionally, this plays both sides of the fence.

> And in ever single case, it is the individual's choice to commit crime.

Indeed. White collar crime rarely goes punished, however. And some crimes are made to target groups -- consider Nixon's to the present's war on drugs, which implicitly targets minorities. If a father is incarcerated for minor marijuana use for years, and the CEO down the street who embezzled gets months at Club Fed, they both "serve their time" however injust it may be implemented but the lost time with their children is irrecoverable -- and that is why it matters what happened to your great- great- grandpa, is society pushed them into the poverty cycle and reinforced it with Jim Crow to current inequitable laws.


QED




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