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This looks cool. I just started using MindNode yesterday [0] which is a similar tool (although it takes a very different approach - it's more visual). I wasn't sure of the effectiveness of these sort of tools as I usually just use text files + Notability sketches but I have to say they are very useful in helping to structure thoughts better. I'm interested to try this.

[0] https://www.mindnode.com/




Nice think about Mindnode and Bike is copy/paste between the two works quite well.


Bonus is that Mindnode has a built in outliner view as well. I use Mindnode for this type of thing 99% of the time.


Another long time MindNode user here. I know the nested lists and map views are essentially two visualizations of the same structured data but my brain just finds the maps less thought-constraining. I end up with more creative paths in map view when I use it to plan.

Horses for courses I guess.

Bike looks neat though.


I'm generally in agreement, but when I need to share something, the outline tends to be easiest to share with others. I'm really happy it's there. Maps for me, outline for others.


It would be interesting to see MindNode approach applied to PKM-style backlinks like in Reflect [1]. So not only visualize connections between pages, but also the outline inside each page.

[1] https://reflect.app


How does Reflect compare to Noteplan 3? They both look similar.


Oh cool, I've been looking for a mindmap app. Oh wait - it is a subscription? Why? That makes zero sense.

<spews out vitriol>


While I’m sympathetic to that, I’ve (somewhat) come around on the notion of “subscription apps” if the developers are responsible with it. I’ve found that in most cases, new features that would probably be held for major version releases (e.g., “this is a feature that would entice you to pay for the upgrade”) just come out when they’re ready; it’s essentially shifting the app to a rolling release model. The traditional commercial model of “buy the new major version and get free updates until the next major version that makes you buy it again, hopefully at a discount” does always give you the option of not upgrading if you don’t want the new features, to be sure, but if you are a regular user and tend to buy upgrades as they come out, the price difference tends to be minimal.

Having said that, I’m not sure a subscription model makes sense for an app like MindNode, since I’d bet a majority of its users only work on mind maps sporadically That’s conjecture on my part, of course, and I could be absolutely wrong, but I suspect people who do everything with mind maps are fairly few and far between. Paying annually for Ulysses, a writing app I really do use every day, is one thing; paying for MindNode, which I use maybe once a quarter, is a big ask.


Yes, sporadic use is a major issue on top of the fact that this is not SaaS and nothing lives in the cloud (which of course I don't want of a document creation tool anyway).

I am all for layers of features that cost money to unlock, but never ever ever on a subscription basis. It's like every developer out there heard that SaaS is where the money is at and decided that applied to their project out of dogma rather than a well reasoned business case.


Ah I didn't realise. I have it through SetApp, which itself is a subscription, albeit an easier subscription to swallow as you get access to a number of great apps.


Yup - without SetApp there are a number of apps I wouldn't otherwise be able to justify spending on individually; but as a group I get more than enough value.

It's a tough balance. Software doesn't age like fine wine sitting on a shelf - it lives in a dynamic environment. It's more akin to produce that will rot over time. Even if no new features are added, it still requires maintenance - by someone.


I've been using the free version for years. Never needed any of the premium features to create a useful mindmap.


I will never invest my time into an app that I might need to pay for later if paying for it will require a subscription and it is not an SaaS or cloud based app.




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