If you have relatives living in housing in San Francisco etc, those are probably not the kind of housing or demographic or lifestyle I'm trying to talk about here. And if your well heeled relatives can shop infrequently and fill a big fridge and it's an asset to them to have that big fridge, they aren't the demographic I'm talking about.

Please do not tell me what solutions I'm allowed to desire for my country. I don't tell you how you should run things in the Netherlands.