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Meh. It's cultural appropriation which a sufficient number of people do care about, whether or not you like it.



From the first definition I found:

> Cultural appropriation refers to the use of objects or elements of a non-dominant culture in a way that reinforces stereotypes or contributes to oppression and doesn't respect their original meaning or give credit to their source. It also includes the unauthorized use of parts of their culture (their dress, dance, etc.) without permission.

I await Patanjali to serve papers that use of his intellectual property isn't allowed, apparently because it reinforces stereotypes or contributes to oppression.

Maybe we'll hear about the Buddha's thoughts on copyright next and how derivative works are unauthorized.

I refuse to disguise my disdain for this idea.


It's not really cultural appropriation. It's simply false appropriation. Claiming another's works as your own fancy innovation. Claiming another's achievement as yours with no original attribution.

This gets you banned in academics.


I wasn't aware that either Hof or Nestor were academics so I'm not sure how it's relevant.

As to the accusation that they've stolen an idea, someone should outline their accusation explicitly and then, far more importantly, explain why I should care. As I've pointed out, Patanjali wouldn't (or you can point out why he would, that would be interesting).


> I wasn't aware that either Hof or Nestor were academics so I'm not sure how it's relevant.

Classic Strawman Argument. Sad to see this on HN. I never claimed they were academics. Just that doing this in academics would get you banned.

They are journalists. The century-old Society for Professional Journalists has a simple statement on plagiarism in its Code of Ethics: “Never plagiarize. Always attribute.”

The outline has already been made clear by several posters in this thread.


> This gets you banned in academics.

We're on a thread where someone is accusing Hof and Nestor of plagiarism and you made that comment as part of the thread

> I never claimed they were academics. Just that doing this in academics would get you banned.

If you want to make it extra clear that it's irrelevant, that's fine by me, but it's not a straw man either way.


“doesn't respect their original meaning or give credit to their source.”

See I can pick parts of a random definition off google the same way you do.

Have you heard of “beer yoga”? Or “goat yoga”? It’s the very definition of disrespectful of the original meaning etc. I’m guessing not, but feel free to be entitled to your opinion, it’s a free country after all


> See I can pick parts of a random definition off google the same way you do.

I shared the whole definition I found from the first result returned to me[1], and I didn't use Google. If you have a better definition then I would suggest that a better response would've been to share it instead of falsely accusing others of mistakes only you have made.

[1] https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-cultural-appropriation-...


Uh ok, Bing/DDG whatever, that's an odd thing to nitpick. I'm not sure who is accusing whom of what, I just pointed out that the definition YOU found from wherever, has the exact phrase I alluded to above. The phrase I quoted specifically says why this could be seen as cultural appropriation, but you seem to be intent on arguing semantics of words and nitpicking so I'm not really sure what your goal is here.


> Bing/DDG whatever, that's an odd thing to nitpick

Actually, it serves as an easy way to display how little your claim resembles reality, because it underlines how zero of what you wrote is correct.

> I'm not sure who is accusing whom of what

Have you considered reading the thread you’re commenting in and not wasting the time of others?

> I'm not really sure what your goal is here.

If you want to claim that it’s cultural appropriation then the definition matters. If the definition doesn’t matter then neither does the claim, and it would serve only as one more meaningless pejorative in the service of ad hominem that does nothing to advance the conversation. Which, as far as I can tell, is the whole purpose of “cultural appropriation” as a concept.




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